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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-12-08 05:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #6912 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6912 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I like book Dorothy a lot, but calling Judy Garland "disturbingly old-looking" when she was 16 at the time of filming and was put on a hellish diet along with amphetamines, then had her breasts strapped down to look less adult. (They did also try a blonde wig!)

The make-up used in cinema at the time makes everything look stagy and people look older when viewed in modern high definition, saying a 16-year-old is disturbingly old-looking is just bitchy.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I think they're referring to the Wicked Dorothy. I know, my surprise that there even was one at all, but I guess there is.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
As I understand it, OP means she looks disturbingly old for the age she's supposed to be, and it's true a 16 year old looks way different from a 10-12 year old. But as I also need understand it, this was an acceptable case of Dawson Casting for the time period and didn't seem as strange because audiences were used to it. It's like how today people who don't know any real teenagers easily believe that they could look like the TV teens being played by actors in their 20s or 30s, when actually most of them really don't.

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(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
No shade to Judy herself but other than singing Over the Rainbow, she was so wrong for the role. And I wouldn't say it was acceptable for the time frame for her to be playing so much younger, or they wouldn't have tried to make her look younger. Even in the 30s they had child actors playing children - the original choice for Dorothy that fell through was Shirley Temple.

I particularly hate Judy as Dorothy because I can't watch the movie without thinking about how much the studio was abusing her for the role. Putting her on uppers and downers, overworking her and tying down her chest and everything. And then the movie wasn't even a success!

All I see in the original movie is a poor abused teenager acting like she's a toddler while most of the story is changed. Books > movie x 100.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT I don't see that? She's a sweet and innocent 16-year-old but she's also a nice girl from the country, in a musical, and that doesn't seem at all far-fetched to me.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Disturbingly old looking for the way she acts. They aged up Dorothy by default because of Judy's age, but she acts like she's the age of the book character. It's no shock to hear Shirley Temple was the original choice for the role.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-09 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Not as bad as Diana Ross in The Wiz...