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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-11-16 06:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #1046 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1046 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

THIS goes into effect starting with Submissions Post 151, as secrets were posted before the poll went up last week.

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 353 secrets from Secret Submission Post #150.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2- not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [
1 2 3 4 5 6 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I notice it quite a bit.

-A Fandom Female

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Always ready with a pithy comment, aren't we?

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
We are. Education leads to such atrocities.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, honey, I don't think your need for a doggie biscuit from the patriarchy came from too much education.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Sort of hard to give credence to an opinion voice by an anonymous nobody.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's not like that's common in this community. Oh, wait...

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
You're lovely. :<

And I don't know if I just want to punch this anon in the face for talking like a condescending half-wit, or because we had a brief but totally fun interaction yesterday.

I think it's a little bit of both.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Howdy lovely creature! :-D

Since when did pointing out that there exists in fandom an anti-man sentiment in some quarters equate to jonesing for attention from The Man? (Unless pointing out there's an anti-woman sentiment in some parts is kissing up to NOW? I hadn't thought of it that way - at least it's not why I'd do it. *shrug*)

At any rate, I would hope the original secret is a troll, but I do know of some actual LJ users who probably believe this. And that's sad. :-/

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
D'awww. ♥

Man, I don't think it's a troll. I just think it's someone who saw the wrong side of how brutal fandom can be sometimes. With the amount of emotional manipulation fic I read, it's surprising I'm not seeing it everywhere, too. >>

But I really get annoyed with so many people commenting on anon. I just. Ffff. You think someone is one person and they aren't and just how hard is it to sockpuppet. I haven't done it in ages, but if I don't want something connected to me, I have a sockpuppet on which I journal regularly, just to get away from the name, yanno? It's there for all my commenting needs.

Really. It is just. Way unnecessarily complicated. /dies You don't know which one to reply to, because you have a comment thread of anons that LOOKS like one person, but is actually three different people holding one conversation.

It's the ultimate troll.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
The anonymice don't bother me so much UNTIL they get up on their Footstool O'Soapbox and start railing about the oppressed and downtrodden and injustice - and doing it as nastily as possible. If you just want to leave a regular old comment or have a laugh at something or even take the piss out of someone for a secret that doesn't contain anything very important, well, OK - be anonymous. But when you purport to be Speaking For The Voiceless On An Important Issue, you should at least use the fake Internet name you gave yourself. It's unlikely Homeland Security is going to track you down for it. *G*

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Lmfao, it just frustrates me trying to tell them apart, really. :|

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
could you be any more condescending? Seriously I'm kind of interested because I think condescension-to-word ratio is approaching the highest it can get without making the sentence nonsensical.

I mean come on. "Oh, Honey". Implying that V_R is unable to form her own opinion, and simply wants the approval of men - there's no other reason to believe what she does. Implicit comparison to a dog. She's simply been brainwashed to sit up and do tricks for men, complete lack of independence. Implying that V_R only believes what she does because she's undereducated and stupid. That's a lot of condescension to fit into 20 words.

Seriously fuck you.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's because if you're a woman and see misogyny everywhere (even where it's not) you're a smart, educated woman whose mind has been freed from the mind control of the oppressive male regime... whereas if you see misandry ANYWHERE (particularly where it is) you have obviously just been brainwashed into something no better than a man's pet, and you are not worth listening to.

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Hey. Hey sweetheart.

Maybe you should go back and read the thread, hmm?

[livejournal.com profile] veronica_rich was saying that SHE saw misandry in fandom, when you [I assume it was you, if not, it was at least a man] were just stating that you hadn't.

Take your condescending tone and shove it, because from where I'm standing, she is far more educated and insightful than you are.

And she has the balls to do it off anon, too. :)

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, what?

This is not the same anon that I think you think it is. I *agree* with [livejournal.com profile] veronica_rich. I was attempting sarcasm, not condescention. Obviously I wasn't clear enough.

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
... Maybe I got the wrong anon.

I hope you'll forgive me, it's so very hard to tell you guys apart.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Understandable. <3 No hard feelings.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
My work here is done. You got everything I wanted to convey :')

Also, fuck you right back with something hard and sandpapery. Good thing the poor oppressed men (and brave women speaking against misandry) have you to defend them.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
This isn't about defending men, I don't give a crap about that at this point. This is about you being incredibly condescending. Whether or not you're concerned about misandry, there's no call for pulling that bullshit. You could not possibly have been more condescending. There's no call for that in a debate. You compared your opponent to a brainwashed dog because she disagreed with you. You literally implied she wasn't human, because she held a different viewpoint from you. Glad you're here to fight for women everywhere, whatever would feminism do with you. Glad we finally have respect for women.

Fuck you, you condescending, smug, superior, elitist, git. Jesus.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I love you.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
"Fuck you right back with something hard and sandpapery?" This is an appropriate comment from someone purporting to stand up against rape?

Really, you cannot be anything more than a troll. Give up the affected outrage.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Good thing the poor oppressed men (and brave women speaking against misandry) have you to defend them.

No. No, no, no. Reread that statement, think about it awhile and realize why you are a fucking discriminating moron.

(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
lol discriminating