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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-12-10 07:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #6914 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6914 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2025-12-11 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
The change to make Nessarose's storyline less *ableist* is so stupid. The whole point is that the abelist is Nessarose, who thinks the only reason she could possibly not be adored by Boq is her disability, and not her rotten personality.

I was actually surprised to see the movie otherwise lean into the idea that Nessa is a spoiled brat whose life of coddling and preferential treatment turned her into a monster. I saw the movie with my sister and kept whispering to her, "and this is how a bitch gets a house dropped on her".

(Anonymous) 2025-12-11 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I mean most of the people who were the most outspoken about the ableism in the original play are wheelchair users and other disabled people themselves, so. Are you?

It's also interesting that "the disabled person is ableist" seems to be a fine writing choice but "the closeted gay person is homophobic" is hated for its unfortunate implications.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-11 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
In the book Wicked wasn't it that she didn't have arms? And the magic shoes let her balance and/or gave her magic hands, it's been a while I don't remember I understand why you wouldn't/couldn't do that for a stage play but it's interesting that they didn't go that route with a cgi packed movie. Plus people without body parts get prosthetics that allow them to replicate the functions of missing body parts all the time so it doesn't seem half so abelist to me. (/not an abilism expert)

But the real problem is the musical (and therefor the movie I haven't seen) didn't do a great job showing N's wretched personality. I don't even know that the book does because everyone sucks in the book so it's hard to stand out.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-12 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think the movie followed the play too closely for it to make sense to change back to a book difference like that.