[ SECRET POST #6924 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6924 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

Lisbon/Jane from the mentalist. I enjoyed their bickering friendship and shipped it because of that because they for sure adored one another platonically, and I could get perhaps unrequited vibes from Lisbon sometimes but the way the show handled getting them together just wasn't convincing. Jane had spent almost the entire story mourning his wife and child to the point where he clearly wasn't over them, and I don't for one second think that he couldn't fall in love again. But I very much went with a post-canon in fic scenario for that because it felt like that made the most sense. The show... did not do this lol. I didn't hate it but I just didn't care for the romance set up, it felt very sudden.

I honestly fell out of love with Steve/Bucky because the movies wouldn't even let them be visible friends again after TWS, and I wasn't sat there expecting a canon kiss, I just wanted to see the friendship we'd been told about. But nada so I genuinely don't ship it anymore.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[philstar22]

Oh man yes. The first couple seasons of that show were great, but it got really bad.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

The first few seasons were very solid TV, and then after the 'did we kill Red or not??' thing it really lost what it was even doing. It's like the writers knew that Jane would kill Red and then himself but didn't want to commit to something that bleak.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

The Steve/Bucky thing infuriates me. You have an entire movies where Steve is going nuts for Bucky and their friendship is emphasized all over the place and then he's free and suddenly they barely talk and are basically distant work buddies. Hate it.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

Yup, we got told 'oh these dudes are super important to each other' and the on-screen version of their present day relationship is a non-existent nothing-burger.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

Well, we got a lot in the Captain America trilogy that showed how important they were to each other; it's just that Disney decided to throw all that out the window for a cheap, narratively unsupported stunt in Endgame.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Steve and Bucky's relationship was the heart and soul of the three Captain America movies, and then we got zero payoff in Infinity War/Endgame, which left a lot of fans feeling cheated.

We saw how close they were in CATFA, and in TWS, even when Bucky didn't remember anyone or anything else, he remembered Steve. We saw how much they loved each other in the fight on the helicarrier, where Steve was able to break through Bucky's conditioning with the power of love.

In Civil War, we saw how much they still cared about each other, even though they had been estranged by Bucky's captivity and the things he'd been forced to do while under HYDRA's control. The whole story of Steve trying desperately to keep Bucky from being murdered out of hand, even if it meant destroying his own life in the process, both because he loves Bucky and because it's the right thing to do. Bucky is desperately trying to keep Steve from damaging that life and keeping away from Steve because the Winter Soldier was created to counter Captain America, and as long as the control keys and the conditioning still exist, he is a major danger to everyone around him, including Steve. Meanwhile, Steve is determined to show him that he is worthwhile, and I think he succeeds. Bucky becomes determined to get rid of the HYDRA conditioning that makes him so dangerous to others. Bucky chooses to go into the ice again not as a way to run away from life, but as a way to not be a danger to others until a way can be found to remove his conditioning.

Then, they barely interacted in Infinity War, although Steve's look of devastation when Bucky got snapped was extremely shippy for me, as was the fact that Steve was the one Bucky called for at the end.

After that, we got Endgame where suddenly the narrative acted like Steve and Bucky barely meant anything to each other, and yeah, that was extremely unsatisfying. Many, many Cap franchise fans went into the movie expecting some sort of payoff for Steve and Bucky's relationship and got nothing. Most of them bailed after that, not least because of the extremely ugly politics surrounding the franchise by that point.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

YEAH like the show never ONCE convinced me that Jane had gotten past his grief over his wife enough to even look at another woman. They had very enjoyable chemistry at times, in terms of presenting that growing friendship as they worked together, but I could not buy them getting together unless they first showed him getting closure and doing some work on HIMSELF to get to that point, and like... unsurprisingly, that's not what the show was going to devote the time to. More's the pity.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

What's worse is that Lisbon is pregnant in the last episode and it just gave such clumsy 'replacing his dead family with a new one' vibes that still annoy me all these years later.

They had a great dynamic, super fun to watch and I get people shipping it because I did too! It just should never have been canon, the show didn't earn or execute it well at all.