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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-12-20 04:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #6924 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6924 ⌋

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Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

(Anonymous) 2025-12-21 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The Steve/Bucky thing infuriates me. You have an entire movies where Steve is going nuts for Bucky and their friendship is emphasized all over the place and then he's free and suddenly they barely talk and are basically distant work buddies. Hate it.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

(Anonymous) 2025-12-21 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT.

Yup, we got told 'oh these dudes are super important to each other' and the on-screen version of their present day relationship is a non-existent nothing-burger.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

(Anonymous) 2025-12-21 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we got a lot in the Captain America trilogy that showed how important they were to each other; it's just that Disney decided to throw all that out the window for a cheap, narratively unsupported stunt in Endgame.

Re: Ships you love in fanon and hate in canon

(Anonymous) 2025-12-21 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Steve and Bucky's relationship was the heart and soul of the three Captain America movies, and then we got zero payoff in Infinity War/Endgame, which left a lot of fans feeling cheated.

We saw how close they were in CATFA, and in TWS, even when Bucky didn't remember anyone or anything else, he remembered Steve. We saw how much they loved each other in the fight on the helicarrier, where Steve was able to break through Bucky's conditioning with the power of love.

In Civil War, we saw how much they still cared about each other, even though they had been estranged by Bucky's captivity and the things he'd been forced to do while under HYDRA's control. The whole story of Steve trying desperately to keep Bucky from being murdered out of hand, even if it meant destroying his own life in the process, both because he loves Bucky and because it's the right thing to do. Bucky is desperately trying to keep Steve from damaging that life and keeping away from Steve because the Winter Soldier was created to counter Captain America, and as long as the control keys and the conditioning still exist, he is a major danger to everyone around him, including Steve. Meanwhile, Steve is determined to show him that he is worthwhile, and I think he succeeds. Bucky becomes determined to get rid of the HYDRA conditioning that makes him so dangerous to others. Bucky chooses to go into the ice again not as a way to run away from life, but as a way to not be a danger to others until a way can be found to remove his conditioning.

Then, they barely interacted in Infinity War, although Steve's look of devastation when Bucky got snapped was extremely shippy for me, as was the fact that Steve was the one Bucky called for at the end.

After that, we got Endgame where suddenly the narrative acted like Steve and Bucky barely meant anything to each other, and yeah, that was extremely unsatisfying. Many, many Cap franchise fans went into the movie expecting some sort of payoff for Steve and Bucky's relationship and got nothing. Most of them bailed after that, not least because of the extremely ugly politics surrounding the franchise by that point.