[ SECRET POST #6933 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6933 ⌋

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Comments

Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's not bait. I only added Bollywood to make it seem LESS racist, I don't see much of that come up. But I do see so much K-Pop and K-Drama stuff, and I think Chinese romance stuff too? Blocking fic by language doesn't help either, because so many of the fic written for those fandoms are in English anyway.

I have nothing against those cultures, or their inhabitants, but their cultures are so vastly different to mine that I can't connect with the media. I've tried. Just like I can't connect with hockey RPF because I have no knowledge of the sport, but it's very easy to just block Hockey RPF. There's no way to block 'animation from Japan' or 'music from Korea', and I wish there was.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

Then just look in tags for Western fandoms? Like?

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

If they were all under the same tag, that'd solve my problem.

I'm familiar with hundreds of fandoms. I don't want to search through each one to find a few tags I'm in the mood for.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

This make sno sense. You search by tag instead of the fandom itself? Just install an AO3 filter addon then.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

I mean... that literally IS racist, though, if your argument is "I just can't connect with this other culture because it's so Different."

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Yeah, I agree. Watching shows from different countries as a kid was what taught me we aren't that different. Hell, watching kid movies like Turning Red or Encanto in my 30s was relatable even though I'm a different race and culture from the families in it.
Even then, it's weird to have "being able to connect" or relatability be a factor in consuming media. Do you not watch movies or listen to music for entertainment? To have fun? Why does it have to be about how you fit into it?

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I'm not Hispanic but there were lots of parts of Encanto that resonated with me on a personal level (Isabela and her Eldest Daughter issues, for one, and Mirabel for being the only child in a family without an obvious talent), and what woman out there couldn't identify with a lot of what Mei went through because they were just basic preteen girl things?

If you aren't able to connect with characters who aren't exactly like you, then why are you even consuming fiction? The entire point of fiction is to be able to experience a story from the point of view of its main character. Like you said, it isn't supposed to be about how YOU fit into it.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

Encanto and Seeing Red are American movies. There is a difference between where (and for whom) stories are written and where they take place. These movies do portray people of other cultures (I think? I did not see Seeing Red tbh, could not tell you if it is a diaspora story or?), but they totally conform to American movie tropes/story telling conventions/etc., bc that is what they are.

Anime is different from Western cartoons, in obvious and in subtle ways. Idk, I think it's not inherently racist to say you don't connect with it, the same way it's not racist to say you don't like Japanese food.

(That said, OPs idea is not reasonably a thing AO3 should or would do, they should look in to extensions that just lets them block fandoms and manually add the biggest fandoms.)

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

Other Anon

Okay. What I said earlier still applies.
"Even then, it's weird to have "being able to connect" or relatability be a factor in consuming media. Do you not watch movies or listen to music for entertainment? To have fun? Why does it have to be about how you fit into it?"

I could give examples of completely foreign movies I related to when watching subtitled, but this is such a childish way to view media outside of America, I have no sympathy for this argument.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

And most of the English language fics the OP is seeing in their search results are written by Americans, or Westerners, and conform to American/Western/wider fandom storytelling tropes and conventions. Furthermore, there's so much bleeding of tropes and storytelling conventions and centuries of cultural exchange across the world, all the way from Disney to the Rashomon Effect, that this feels like a weak and unaware argument.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. But they are not familiar with the fandoms, bc they don't care about the source material.

Also no. There is a fucking American hegemony that means every person in the world is familiar with Hollywood... but that is not the same.

Re: Original OP

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with OP. Examples people are giving here about it's racist are different to "I can't enjoy American media". Because I loved Encanto but I don't like 99.999% of anime, I never watch k-drama or C-drama and it seems fandom is a mass of anime these days with a lot of what seem to be Asian soaps and I don't do soaps.