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⌈ Secret Post #6939 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

During the whole arc in Frasier after the radio station fired him, why did he never seem worried about not having money? that always struck me as odd, he was unemployed but still going to fancy restaurants, etc.

Re: Transcript by OP

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because the showrunners wanted the drama of him getting fired but didn't want to have to make him actually change in the way he is characterized...hence, keeping the same habits.

(note: It's been over a decade since I've seen anything Frasier, I don't actually remember this with any certainty so my response is a cynical comment based off my assumption about the situation)

[(Anonymous)]

He might've been in the position where he's rich enough to weather some unemployment for a limited time period, plus too stubborn/depressed to change his habits right away simply because his income took a major hit.

[(Anonymous)]

OP here. that actually makes a lot of sense.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Niles went through something similar during his divorce from Maris - he struggled for a time to admit that his financial situation had changed, and had to adjust to living in that dinky apartment. The Crane men are nothing if not a prideful bunch :p.

Which adds another interesting element to Daphne's attempt to get another job in "Dial M for Martin" - the main plot was her consdiering changing jobs because she felt Martin was well enough to where she wasn't needed anymore, but also, if Frasier was unemployed, and thus unable to pay her, well...

[(Anonymous)]

Back then money went further, you were paid more for less work, and it was a lot easier to gather a savings.

[(Anonymous)]

Nonsense.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds too good to believe, but it's true!

[(Anonymous)]

LOOOLLL. I worked in radio in 1998. No one was paid more for less work.

Talk personalities of the kind Fraiser was billed to be did get paid anywhere from 50k-100k per year for a set number of shows, but radio stations were (are?) held to a budget based on the advertising they can sell, so if sales were down they'd never get raises or be held to a lower salary with the prommise of bonuses if the station's profits covered all salaries. Big market talk stations like Seattle definitely had bigger budgets and commanded huge prices for the ad space, but Fraiser's kind of show would have been first to feel the knife so the station could afford political pundits.

Now, did he have money to burn thanks to his previous jobs as an actual practicing psychologist? Yes, but he was also unemployed for a number of years mid-Cheers. Could he have been pulling in side money from books and public speaking? Plausible. His dad was a retired cop so pension, but the way he and Niles spend, both of them better be saving hard so that unemployment wouldn't immediately leave him broke and his dad's pension solely paying for that apartment.

[(Anonymous)]

Newsflash, that would be 100k-200k in today's money. The median salary for a talk radio personality today is $56k. Top 90% is ~$80k. The position has also assumed the work of other roles that have been eliminated. That is literally more money for less work. It's the same story in most jobs, where have you been?

[(Anonymous)]

Not in the media industry, but that's because the other roles you mention have been eliminated by computers. You see Frasier's only other employee was an engineer; her job would now be all automated and all the host has to do is open the mic. I lost my radio job to computers, they don't need a monkey to push the buttons and now they even pipe the voice from a studio in another market so they're not paying local talent. Frankly, I'm not shocked the pay hasn't kept up with the times, it's really very sad, but I'm pressing X to doubt that anyone one personality is actually doing more work, not the same. I bet Martha Quinn, love her, isn't screening calls and uploading social media clips by herself while the computer plays the music.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because it's different work, doesn't mean it's not more. My job in the 90s was doing math based on actuary tables; now I'm doing a lot more reports that are literally above my paygrade.

The media industry isn't going to let peons they pay $50k a year have even a minute to themselves not working on something. The FACT is that he made more real money, spent less money to get goods and services, and thus had more savings/discretionary money than a comparable person would have today. That's how (ignoring the fact that it's all fake anyway).

[(Anonymous)]

ugh, Martha Quinn. Anybody who has a stupid grin on her face the entire time she's talking about John Lennon being murdered needs a smack in the head.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a huge "it depends"! Housing was vastly cheaper, groceries were generally cheaper, but anything discretionary (everything from clothes to books to shoes to travel) was considerably more expensive. Whether or not this worked out for you really depended where you started and where your income came from.

[(Anonymous)]

Frasier irrc was really quite rich so he would have been able to weather being unemployed for a bit in a way most working-class people can't, also the man was pretty arrogant so it's a safe bet that he also wouldn't give any of that up for appearances sake.

But none of this discounts the writers just kind of forgetting and not wanting to get into it, lol, this was from the same era that had most of the Friends characters living in apartments they'd never be able to afford on their salaries.

[greghousesgf]

It's kind of standard practice for TV shows and movies to have characters living in apartments and houses much, much nicer than people with the same jobs IRL would have no matter what decade the TV show or movie was made or set in.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Classic sitcom logic. If it served the writers' interests to have characters worry over money, they'll write that. If it's too inconvenient, they won't.

[greghousesgf]

they do this with dramas too, not just comedies

[(Anonymous)]

Network TV is almost all aspirational and exists entirely because of ad dollars. Sure, it's art, but it's SPONSORED art. Advertisers don't want people reminded that they're living paycheck to paycheck or they won't want to buy things, so aspirational abundance is the standard.

TV writers know this instinctively even if they haven't been told this is the case when writing characters.

[(Anonymous)]

He lived on Microsoft and Apple stock.

[bannedbookweek]

On tvtropes they suggested Frasier had done well investing his money in the stock market and used that to keep himself going until he got a new job. I always liked that idea but agree the writers dropped the ball a bit in not addressing it.

[(Anonymous)]

I could have sworn I read an official source somewhere saying he got in early and invested in Apple.