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⌈ Secret Post #6967 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

Whether it's m/m, f/f, or m/f, I'm only really interested in ships with characters that have set top/bottom positions. That's not a secret though.

The secret is it's always super funny to see everyone assume it's because I'm a big bottom who relates to the bottoms when in reality it's the opposite.

Re: Transcript by OP

[(Anonymous)]

I want more fics from the top POV. There's such a dearth of them!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm so tired of people calling fixed shippers hetero-normative. Legit anti behavior. I'm convinced it's unaddressed gender essentialism because I never see people arguing that there must be switching in M/F fandoms or otherwise it's misogynistic. Almost like the people complaining that it's hetero-normative think always wanting to get fucked means that they must be..... a woman....ahem.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. For me there are just some ships that I can't see as having anything other than a fixed dynamic for various canon reasons. There are plenty of other ships that I think switch it up! But just like RL people can have preferences, I believe fictional characters can have preferences too.

[philstar22]

For me, when I have a fixed idea, it tends to be linked to characters. Some characters I just can't see not having specific preferences/tendencies, and reading them otherwise feels wrong to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. There are some characters who I feel would bottom no matter who they were with, for example.

[(Anonymous)]

Does “fixed shipper” mean someone who has a fixed personal preference or someone who thinks there should be a universal fixed dynamic in fic/art/other portrayals?

Because those feel like very different things to me.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

A fixed shipper is a person who only likes/writes/reads a specific top/bottom dynamic. Can there be assholes who have that preference and think it ought to be universal? Sure, just like there are assholes who think the only valid and morally correct way to ship is by switching.

[(Anonymous)]

let's be real, the bottom = female role happens no matter how much switching happens. artists drawing taller/thicker characters as thin, waify, and shorter when they bottom? writers describing the bottom as shorter and smaller regardless of canon? yeah that shit is shit but it isn't confined either to switch-prefs or fixed-prefs. in so many fandom situations, regardless of the character dynamic, those fixed roles are rigidly attached to characters for all the gross reasons and not, as OP says, their personal interest, and authors and artists get dogpiled for putting the wrong character on the wrong side of the /. switch, fix, IDGAF as long as your reasoning for the always-bottom isn't "he's 2cm shorter than the top!"

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I always figured this kind of thing is half to do with size kinks people don't realize they have, or don't realize is a kink at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, there absolutely are people who do this in a heteronormative way, like the bottom is smaller/softer/needs protecting and the top is dominant/larger/stronger despite how they actually look in canon. And they do this with m/f pairings as well!

But having a fixed preference is not in itself heteronormative, no.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get how when it's trans!fic, it's just fine and dandy for the pre-op trans man to always get fucked in the front hole, but when it's a fem!gay character then that's hetero-normative. A man is getting fucked. Doesn't make him a woman and it doesn't make the relationship het.

[(Anonymous)]

For me who tops and who bottoms is 100% self-indulgent, I really don't care if someone wants to psychoanalyze me about it. "It's because you're a bottom/top", "it's heteronormative!", this or that. man... sure whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

It's just what I find hot. Go ahead and analyze it, there is nothing too deep there.

[(Anonymous)]

+2.

Exactly this, it's about what I find personally appealing and hot, it's that deep.

I always think the assumptions say more about them

[(Anonymous)]

Like a lot of the time people seem to be projecting their own weird gender roles or expectations by accusing you of whatever.

Re: I always think the assumptions say more about them

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, for real. I'm a woman (het) and a dom. I always write BDSM fic from the eyes of the dom.

Not that this person has to be a top, but you know.

Re: I always think the assumptions say more about them

[(Anonymous)]

I long for more Doms bottoming.

But yeah, so many people assume women are reading D/s or Top/Bottom for the bottom or sub. Throwing their own weird gender/penetration roles onto other people.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah shaming what people like in fiction is annoying as fuck and I say this as someone who rarely cares about top/bottom dynamics for my ships. I'm happy to read whatever so long as it feels in character, but the way I've seen people get so nasty at anyone who happens to have a preference is weird as shit.

So long as no one is harassing someone else over what they like I do not care if someone has a strict preference and only reads/writes that preference, it's fucking fanfic for gods sake, it's really not that important.