[ SECRET POST #6982 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6982 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Do you have any squicks?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

If you tagged each and every thing that wasn't canon, then everything would be an unscrollable mess. Good thing canon exists and people know what to base their tags on.

I'm so sorry you're confused over something so simple, maybe you could remind me about all the possible non-AU's we could tag instead? Which is your favourite non-search? High School, or Coffee Shop? Tattoo Parlour, Florist? Medieval? WWII? University? No Capes? No Powers? No Magic? Muggle? Superhero? Hockey? Canon Divergence? Not Everyone Dies? Modern? Roommates? Drug Dealer? Bakery? Different First Meeting? Slavery? Soulmate? Royalty? Vampire? Werewolf? Fantasy? Wings? A/B/O? Furry? Time Travel? Space? Band? Actors? Youtubers? Dark? Multiverse? Hanahaki? Mafia? Victorian? Crossover? Magical Realism? Fae? Mermaid? Selkie? Demon? Mirror? Wonderland? Steampunk? Future? Time Loop? Olympics?
Y'know, just to be specific. After all, we wouldn't want people to waste their time with something they don't want to read. That would be absurd!

Re: Do you have any squicks?

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't matter if the taggers are tagging correctly if the other people refuse to tag. What you end up with in practice, like right now, is a mass of untagged fic that may or may not contain surprise vagina.

The ones who have demonstrated they do not want to tag, will never tag. We cannot change these people. They don't care. The untagged vagina fic will continue.

However, the ones who have demonstrated they ARE willing to tag can start tagging cis/cis then the uncertainty diminishes. They are now not a mass of untagged fic, there is a "bunch of untagged fic" and "a bunch of fic tagged cis/cis by people who have demonstrated they are willing to tag appropriately." This would help people find what they want to find. The problem does not continue because now things have a cis/cis tag you can look for.

Sometimes if you want to resolve a problem, the solution has be implemented by people who are not the cause of the problem. Often it has to be that way, because the problem people won't change. It doesn't make it not their fault, but they don't care it's their fault.

I'm not sure how else I can explain it to you. We can agree to disagree but you seem to not understand what I'm trying to say.

Re: Do you have any squicks?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I don't necessarily disagree with you, nor I am the anon who mentioned the people who refused to tag things properly being the real problem, though I do agree that that is the case. (and if you think people wont fuck up the cis tag too then that might be some naivety on your part as well)
Simply, I don't believe tagging a character cis is either practical nor available for most series/parings. Regardless of its relevancy. In part my list of AU's meant to suggest that. (in a terrible, roundabout sort of way)

I think you're too focused on the specific. That "surprise vagina" will pop out like a jack in the box in any and all fic you might read, and to be perfectly honest, I've never actually had this happen to me. So I don't have that personal attachment to be so fed up with it. (and I only read m/m so I think I would notice)
But I can imagine what that's like. It sucks. It can even feel like a stab in the back at times, I'm sure.

Tagging cis isn't the solution though. There are characters who are alien, magical, ghosts, androids, demons, and every combination we can imagine. Their anatomy is not defined by cis. They can be humanoid male or female, work the same sexually as human men or woman do, but they are not cis. The gross array of monster/alien/animal dicks/vaginas/in between/lack of are surprisingly vast even. Canon or not. There is no such thing as cis!Spock wither he has a normal human dick or a cloistered giant tentacle with suction cups attached.

There is also the reason people use what tags they do/the basics of what you do or do not tag in the first place.
One of my favourite parings is a spirit/human. The spirit possesses a host through most of the series and therefore shares his image more often than not. I've come across the host being seen as trans. One of my favourite fics for them had only the mention that their host didn't wear the band across his chest anymore. It wasn't relevant so it wasn't tagged. There was no "surprise vagina" but that doesn't mean he was cis either.
This could also be said for any trans character who has had full surgery. They are not cis, but have dicks all the same, and unless the author wants to go into their transition or reference it with any importance/make a point of it apart from an offhand remark, then it it has no reason to be tagged.


I completely understand what you're saying, but I just don't believe it'll catch on, solve anything, or be anything but redundant. I'm sorry.