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⌈ Secret Post #6986 ⌋

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"will invade spaces for a thing to let fans now how bad their taste is"

That sounds more like they want fans to not like a thing. Not to convince people who don't care or even know about the topic, to hate the thing

I've never had a hater approach me out of nowhere to tell me to hate a show I've never heard of. Obsessive stans of things, however...

"That sounds more like they want fans to not like a thing. Not to convince people who don't care or even know about the topic, to hate the thing"

YEAH and that's SILL OBNOXIOUS behavior. IDK why you're so dead set on defending haters and beating the "but stans are WORSE" drum

Well that's easy. Because ayrt is a hater themself and wants to justify it to themself.

Nobody said it's not, OP just said they prefer haters who leave them alone, to stans who bother them to like things.

You're really emotional about this.

OH WOW 'you're really emotional about this'.

Because having an opinion makes me what..? Less valid. Face it. Many people aren't just okay with assholes as long as assholes aren't mean to THEM

i don't fucking care if someone is a bully or a harasser because they really like or really hate something. I just prefer people who dont bully abd harass period. If you don't fucking like a thing , stay out of the communities for people to like it and leave them alone.

Hating something to an obsessive degree or a degree where you NEED to tell people who like it they're wrong isnt a personality. Its a sign you need psychological help .

You sound like you're convinced stans can't be assholes and abusive?

.. you're fucking dense aren't you

"i don't fucking care if someone is a bully or a harasser because they really like or really hate something. I just prefer people who don't bully and harass PERIOD.. If you don't fucking like a thing , stay out of the communities for people to like it and leave them alone."

OP's response to pointing out hater's harassing behavior was just "well I don't see it/it's not being done to ME" whereas a lot of people are pointing out to OP that haters engage in the same kind of behavior they complain about from stans. They're two sides of the same shitty coin. Just because haters are nice to you because you don't care about the thing they hate doesn't mean they're more pleasant or not irrational about it.

Nah I just feel like I'm talking to someone who is very upset and going to read what they want to read instead of what is written in text. A remark that something sounds like something else is not a moral judgement. It certainly isn't a claim that they don't care if someone is a bully

But like I said, you're reading what you want to read so I'm dropping this

hey i was just repeating what I literally said in the thread above about thinking both are just as bad in behavior and it doesn't matter why someone's acting like an asshole, only for you to accuse me of not thinking stans can be assholes??? I literally acknowledged stans are assholes to

Let me make this clear. I choose neither haters or stans.

You say this as if that’s still not incredibly rude and fucking annoying behaviour? Being rude to people because they like something is not in any way acceptable.

Stans can be just as rude if you say you don't care for their fave. Let's be real.

do you have ANYTHING to say but " b-but STANS"??

Your argument is pathetic.

Comparing stans or haters was the entire topic of this thread yeah?

yeah but people are coming in to point out to OP that from their own experience haters do the same things they accus stans of doing and all they can do is just dismiss it or say "but STANS" which is honestly just shit tier tumblrina level arguing.

People saying "i had a different experience" and OP goes into deny/personal attack mode.

I don't actually see anyone in this thread defending haters, which is what confuses me about this whole argument. Did anyone say haters were good? Or that stans were worse as opposed to also bad?

So you don't have an argument. Got it.

"I've never had a hater approach me out of nowhere to tell me to hate a show I've never heard of. Obsessive stans of things, however...I've never had a hater approach me out of nowhere to tell me to hate a show I've never heard of. Obsessive stans of things, however..."

Yep, this. My experience with haters has been that if you say "I don't watch that show" they'll drop it. But stans? If you say "I don't watch that show" that just opens you up to them detailing every single reason why you SHOULD be watching the show, even if you make it clear that it isn't your thing.

I think you're reading this the same way I'm reading this.

'Starting with the given that haters and stans are about equally bad, would you rather be A) harassed to make yourself like something you don't care about at all or B) harassed to drop something you like?' and then it's YMMV neither are better or worse it's more about personal tolerance.

But people went wild.

The problem is that "Do you prefer situation A or situation B," isn't relevant, because the situations are not equivalent.

Situation A is that you don't care about the thing. Situation B is that you do care about the thing, either by liking it or disliking it.

So, in situation A, if you tell the hater that you don't care about the thing, they drop it. If you tell the stan, they stan at you. Clearly, in this case, the stan is more annoying.

In situation B, both the stan and the hater will try to change your mind if you disagree with them and either leave you alone or try to convince you to like or dislike the thing even more if you agree with them. YMMV on who's more annoying in this case.

So you've got OP, who clearly states that they're talking about Situation A, and a bunch of people losing their shit in the comments because they insist on making the post about Situation B. It's the kind of reading comprehension you usually see on tumblr.

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