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⌈ Secret Post #7016 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

For a certain time in a certain era I remember everyone convinced OCs were the cause of the "Mary Sue problem" but honestly? Some of the WORST offenders in some of my fandoms were folks who prided themselves on sticking to canon.

B!S: Mary Sueish characters aren't even the worst kind of shitty fic. They're honestly ignorable and didn't justify the massive harassment of young, new, and often female fans just getting into fic. A bunch of people just wanted to be assholes to the kiddos

[(Anonymous)]

When I was younger I used to be so staunchly 'anti-mary-sue' like some kind of cringey badge of honor, I never went after anyone writing them but I absolutely judged the people that did very harshly in my own head. Then I frankly grew the fuck up and realised that there is nothing wrong with it and to let people have their fun.

And of course these days I just roll my eyes at any mary-sue pearl clutching because it's all just another sexist front that people hide behind when female characters are good at anything, god forbid good at more than one thing. How dare a fictional character be special, that's clearly bad(but only when woman).

[(Anonymous)]

I think a lot of the Mary Sue Problem was not Mary Sues themselves but that every single kid had one and you'd have to wade through so much Mary Sue Slop to get to any decent story. Same thing happened to a lesser extent with the whole Character/Reader trend.

Individually, nothing wrong with them. As an aggregate, I see how people were irritated.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and I think a lot of the most aggressive anti-Sue people were very young themselves and were trying to show how grown-up and smart they were (by bullying others).

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is why I hated them.

I just do not give a shit about your self insert/OC doing stuff, anything, with canon characters and never have.

I won't read canon character ships I don't like, and I definitely do not care about people's OCs unless I know the person specifically, even now, and I wouldn't expect anyone to give a shit about mine.

I don't and didn't begrudge people having and playing with them, but the mire of mary sue slop back in the Mary Sue Epoch was everywhere, numerous, crappy and largely before the era of tagging.

I actually found the X Reader trend worse, though. Mary Sues were cringey in the same way Sparkledogs were cringey, but X Reader fics give me a visceral feeling of disgust that super perfect not-like-other-girls self insert OC fic from my peers never did.

Ick ick ick.

[(Anonymous)]

"Sparkledogs"

Now THAT is a term I haven't heard in many many moons.....wow, that one takes me back.

[(Anonymous)]

Same and same.

I never said anything to anybody with a Mary Sue story (I still see people show up on Reddit in my fandoms with "an idea for a really cool story!" like that, and I just ignore them; let 'em have their fun.

But man, I do not ever want to read them.

[(Anonymous)]

Also I think a lot of people forget the biggest part of the anti-Mary Sue craze was pre-AO3 and before ff.net had any kind of tagging, so you *really* had to wade through the mess. Nowadays there are still some problems (way too many people even on AO3 tag their fics with their OC's name instead of Original Female Character) but it's at least somewhat easier to curate your experience.

[(Anonymous)]

This. My Mary Sue Hate days were back in the 90s, where practically nothing was tagged, so I could spend days wading through Character/Mary Sue trying to find just one Character/Character that I then read in half an hour and then back to searching....

Now with AO3, I don't even think about Mary Sues to hate them, since I never see them. Wonderful!

[pengilly]

In spite of the Sonic fandom's reputation for being a breeding ground for cringeworthy OCs, I find myself wading through more parodies/mockeries of derivative/cringey Sonic OCs in fandom spaces than actual examples (alongside actual decent OCs). Maybe part of it is kids being more afraid of being cringe nowadays, and instead project onto existing characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. They were everywhere.

Though I do Character/Reader much more annoying

OP

[(Anonymous)]

You know what ill admit that is probably right. I was shortsighted in my judgement but... Thats a fair point to bring up. Honestly another reason i like Ao3 is that its makes it easier to happen upon stuff you really won't like without warning bc of the tags.