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⌈ Secret Post #7030 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

They never bother to build it up and actually show you those people falling/being in love. They take it as a given that a woman stood next to a man = in love, moving on to whatever drama they really want to do. It sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

Especially when they work so much better as friends... or at least never in the same room as each other. Give me an actual story or fuck off! (uh, directed at the writers, obviously lol)

[philstar22]

And it is almost always the same tropes. Even women who are untraditional suddenly become traditional when it comes to romance. It is like they can't imagine any other way a romance could be.

[(Anonymous)]

I admit I haven’t seen a ton of romantic movies but I’ve never seen any that don’t show how the chemistry leads to them falling in love.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, half the time "chemistry" is all they have. At least one, often both, of the characters are completely terrible people and it doesn't make any sense why the other character would love them or how a relationship could work without a whole lot of therapy.

[(Anonymous)]

That’s a different criticism than what the other anon said, though.

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't have anything to do with the other anon's point, and is a subjective complaint that is fair to you, but not a universal law to others.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the romantic movies I've seen focus more on the drama of whatever interpersonal problem is between the two leads. 90% of the movie is basically "Yeah, they have chemistry, but they fight all the time and really shouldn't be together" and then 10% "Someone said sorry, so everything is good foreverrrrrr. The End."

Rare is the movie that shows them hanging out, enjoying each other's company, showing why they make a good couple, not just that they're sexually attracted to each other, but actually like each other, as people.

[(Anonymous)]

But that isn’t the same issue as what the other anon claimed. And there are plenty of romantic couples in movies that don’t fight but they’re not in romantic movies because slice of life films just aren’t a thing. There needs to be conflict and if the conflict is outside the couple, by definition it will be a different genre.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is. You can do conflict within the couple without making the resolution either stupid or toxic AF. Showing the conflict as something that they navigate together strengthens them as a couple and builds up their relationship. Making them fight amongst themselves only to get a last minute resolution to the initial problem does not resolve the inherent divergence of them as people. It just makes it a relationship that is probably doomed to fail, which makes for a disappointing and unfulfilling movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is literally why I find romance movies so boring. I'm not interested in watching the entire process unfold and that's what the whole point of that type of movie is.

[iff_and_xor]

This only clicked for me relatively recently, in the context of hating most movie romances, but happily reading fanfiction with a significant romantic focus.

I just don’t care about or simply can’t “see” the romance if I don’t feel like I already know the characters and have some understanding of what appeal they see in each other.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT.

That's an interesting perspective to it, which I can understand even if it doesn't track for me as such. I enjoy romantic fanfic at least in part because I enjoy romance media, I just like watching two characters fall in love whether I already know them or not. And at least for me the fun of romance media(mostly TV shows as they have longer to develop things, movies are sometimes fine, sometimes not, lol) is experiencing new characters falling for one another. It tickles my brain right.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you-- I hate romance movies (there are exceptions, and I often enjoy a movie that has a romance *in* it but like... a sci-fi plot that takes precedent, but as a genre I'm not a fan), I read a LOT of romance-focused fanfic.

Part of it is knowing the characters, but yeah, a LOT of it is the characters already know *each other*, and I know how they work. Now, there are times where I'll get really invested in a ship with side characters who don't meet or a crossover ship, but in those cases, I know either how those characters fit into the world and with mutual friends/allies, OR, I know them both so well that I can envision what they would see in each other if they met. Most of the time, though, it's that I've seen how two people work together and how they LIKE each other, and it's much easier to envision two people I've seen LIKE each other live happily ever after than two people who are hot and heterosexual and don't talk their problems out together until the end of a movie.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true for media that doesn't have romance as it's focus, but if we're talking about strict romance movies/shows they do exactly that: they show you the characters getting to know one another and falling in love, if they didn't they wouldn't be romance media because that's the whole point of them.

[(Anonymous)]

Not really. They show you a formula, which most people will just take as having proven two characters to be in love, because the formula = love and they fit the formula, don'tchaknow. Actual characterization with no shortcuts is few and far between.

[(Anonymous)]

They have a formula because all media has genre tropes that they use to tell their stories, but within the formula they show you the romance progression because that’s how romance stories work.

[(Anonymous)]

DA you’re really missing what the original anon said about these movies. They said you don’t see that when hilariously that is literally the basis of every romance movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I really wonder what romance movies you've seen because there are very few that don't show the relationship progression. Now it may not work for you, which is fine because that is subjective, but to sit there and say that romance movies don't develop the romance is just flat out incorrect.

[(Anonymous)]

its almost like all media has a formula it follows so that the people that enjoy that genre are likely to watch it. news at 11.