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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-07 05:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1067 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1067 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 325 secrets from Secret Submission Post #153.
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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
140. http://i48.tinypic.com/w1v2ok.png
hollydb: fanon spuffy (fanon spuffy)

Dear OP...

[personal profile] hollydb 2009-12-07 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda love you. Wanna make out? :D

Re: Dear OP...

[identity profile] caaare.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you explain the point? Why write about, you know, VAMPIRES, as humans?? So they can go to the beach??

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-07 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but no, they can not. Spike is only Spike if he is a vampire.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, so... it's a section of Buffy The Vampire Slayer fandom with no vampires...? Uh... ok...

[identity profile] tinitrinity.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. I've found some of the best written fic in the AH category (different fandom, but same deal) that's actually better written than the source material.

[identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Granted it's been like... 10 years since I was into Buffy but... um... what the fuck???

(Anonymous) 2009-12-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You're wrong and you should feel bad because 99.9 percent of all AH is basically bad original fiction with canon names slapped on in order to have smut, garner readers and attention. In that order.

And I know your fandom, Twitard. Your clever use of that picture doesn't fool me because AH isn't actually a popular genre in BtVS fandom. But it is the pre-dominant genre in Twilight fanfic. So GTFO.

Re: Ummm... o.O

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-08 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] 0o0f.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't quite get what the point is.

[identity profile] caaare.livejournal.com 2009-12-07 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
iawtc

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeeeahhh... I never got the point of that. Or the point of, say, "Avatar but in highschool!" fics. I hate 'em. It's just...I mean... Dude, what's the point? If you take away the things that make the characters who they are, then they're not really the characters anymore. I'd rather read an in-world fic with ten OCs than an "What if the X-men didn't have powers and were just normal people?" fic.

Besides, Spike-vampire=William. Heck, the romantic-puppiness of William is the reason that Spike, even with a demon in him and no soul, is still a hopeless romantic. You take away the demon bit and...well, I mean... Why not just read Gilmore Girls fanfic then or something?

Ugh. No sir. I just don't get it.

[identity profile] ainu-laire.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get the point, but at the same time, I'm not gonna judge. That's what AUs are for...

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[identity profile] missing-mile-15.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get it. To me, Spike's not Spike unless he's a vampire. Then he's William, who's a lame ass momma's boy. :/

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of how Clueless is a reimagined version of Emma. Yes, sometimes AH can be done very well and provide great entertainment. Personally, I prefer canon, but I've enjoyed AH as well.

[identity profile] ryotakishu.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'd never seen this before, but it looks like fun. Thanks for the headsup OP
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[identity profile] kestrellan.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I have no opinion one way or the other on this secret, but my god, do they look adorable in that picture! ^_^

[identity profile] hologrphcbuddha.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I wasn't expecting so much disagreement to this secret, lol. I actually get frustrated b/c so much of the fic I find in my ships in various fantasy/supernatural fandoms is all-human, and I'm just not into that.

The problem I have with all-human is that so much of the characters' personas are based around their being non-human. I just can't imagine a circumstance that would make Buffy the person she is without her slayer powers... they're just so much a part of her and have had a huge impact on how she's evolved over the seasons. Same with Spike and his vampirism--more so, in fact, because while Buffy still has her mortality, she more or less acts her age, whereas Spike's been around for 100+ years (most of which he's spent as a soulless killer) and I just can't think of any way for that kind of experience to translate into a mortal 30-something human life. I mean, I'm sure you could write them both as having really tough lives and Having To Grow Up Too Fast and I suppose you could have Spike be like... idk, a reformed sociopath or something but it just doesn't carry the same pathos or gravity to me.

That said, I've no doubt that there are some very well-written all-human AUs out there, but they don't appeal to me b/c don't feel like Buffy. But to each their own, I guess.

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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Just had a discussion of this on my lj, actually (though not about Buffy). I support you, OP!

[identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I seriously prefer canon-esque fic, because I think all-human Buffy isn't tough enough a lot of the time. But then there is [livejournal.com profile] nautibitz and a few others to make me realize that there's good stuff on all sides. (And bad stuff, too, but why dwell?)

[identity profile] soymaid.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm surprised so many people are down on AH (which I had never heard of before this secret). Sounds like it could be fun to me.

Also, I think an alternate universe where Spike is human would NOT entail him turning back into William. Just saying.

[identity profile] bloodypoetry.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have no problem with all human au's. I just...don't read them. :/ Am I bad person for that? I don't think so. Are you a bad person for liking them? No. The REASON I read fanfic is because Spike is vampire and Buffy is the slayer. Period. Otherwise, to me, I am just reading about two random people who's names happen to be the same names of characters I like. I like the darkness, I like the good vs evil, I like the bloodlust and the pain and suffering and...

I think you get it :p

(Anonymous) 2009-12-08 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. I just remembered why I got so turned off of Buffy fanfiction back when I was 14. It was all those AH fics!

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
God damn, I was about to ask if fandom was really that judgmental about run-of-the-mill AU stories, but looking at the comments APPARENTLY SO! Stay classy, guys.

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