[ SECRET POST #7045 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7045 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I'm reading this secret very differently from most of the other people in this thread. When I see the term "self-shippers/yumeshippers," that makes me think not of people who want to fuck fictional characters but the people who want to fuck fictional characters and then write entire fanfics/draw fanart about them doing just that. The 'married to Snape on the astral plane' sort of people, in other words. And yeah, I can see why people not in fandom would see that kind of thing and think that fandom has trouble understanding the boundaries between fiction and reality, because that's pretty much what that is.

[(Anonymous)]

idk, just drawing and writing fanfic is not enough to get to the Snape-wives level, someone can do that and still not be crossing the boundary of reality and fiction. Isn't it just self-insert fic pretty much?

I just feel like people are clutching their pearls about self-shipping.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between self shippers and crazies.

On the one hand, you have people having fantasies of their favorite characters getting together and write it down - totally normal fanfic

On the other hand, you have people having fantasies of their favorite characters getting together with them and write it down - totally normal self shipping fanfic

Then there's Those People who do not understand what fiction is and get jealous of other people liking Their Character (tm) or say they're Kin or whatever. It's not self shipping or even a subset of self shippers; it's people who, deliberately or otherwise, blur the lines between fiction and reality and make it everyone else's problem.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, I feel like shipping canon characters and self-shipping aren't really comparable.

Shipping canon characters is like playing with Barbies. One person might want to ship Barbie with Ken, someone else might want to ship Barbie with one of the Ninja Turtles, and someone else might want to ship three different Barbies together. But at the end of the day everyone is just playing with dolls and it's all fiction.

Self-shipping is like shipping yourself with Barbie. That by definition is blurring the lines between fiction and reality, because you are real and Barbie is not. So whether they're making it everyone else's problem or not, it's not the same thing as people who are shipping two different fictional characters together.

[pengilly]

You're taking an extreme example and applying it to an entire group.

Most self-shippers know that our f/os aren't real. Most of us simply chill with our self-insert fic, art, collecting things that make us think of our f/o, imagining what they would say to us in a scenario, etc.

Exactly what other fans do with canon characters (While often blatantly projecting onto them in the process. Just look at how many slash fics will change the personality of the less overtly "masculine" guy. At least we're being honest about it.)

There are some people who believe in things like afterlife/reincarnation with our f/o, and Tulpas, but there are extremists in every online community. For a site that's supposedly more chill for fandommers than mainsteam socials, there's an odd hate-boner over yumes specifically over here.

It's like how normie-aligned fandom people will hear the term "fanfiction writer", and immediately think of twelve-year olds writing erotica with offensive gay stereotypes and threatening to kill each other over morally incorrect/socially injust ships.

That's the vibe I get from people constantly bringing up Snapewives in any post referencing self-ships.

I have a feeling the former is exactly the kind of thing that OP would balk at.