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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2026-04-21 05:39 pm

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(Anonymous) 2026-04-21 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)

Jimmy Carr seems to be getting a lot more attention (maybe because he's so high profile in the UK and because of the tax thing) but I found the entire list of comedians who went to the Riaydh festival interesting. Some of them I thought yeah, of course. Others genuinely surprised me. Out of all of them, I felt that Aziz Ansari had the most thoughtful and reasonable explanation but in general, comedians saw it as a gig and a challenge, not an endorsement of the Saudi government. I think that's fair, but then my own government's been doing some pretty awful things and people still have to work here, so...

(Anonymous) 2026-04-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care much for the majority of the list up there, but I do think it depends on current events in addition to why they're performing.

I've seen comedians perform for troops deployed in the Middle East, while others performed specifically for Saudi citizens. I admit though, I haven't been keeping up much with what the Saudi government specifically has been doing lately so I don't know the extent of the controversy.

(Anonymous) 2026-04-22 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
If you agree not to joke about the slavery human rights abuses and journalist murdering on the orders of the slavers and journalist murderers while performing in a country with issues with slavery and human rights abuses and journalist murdering you're not a very good comedian. Or person.

Huge swath of comedians is just dead to me. Luckily there are plenty of others. Literally hundreds of others available at my fingertips <3

(Anonymous) 2026-04-22 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so indifferent to the whole thing. America is barely any better at this point. We have little girls in detention centers who are somehow getting pregnant or disappearing altogether. Concentration camps are opening in at least four different states. And a bunch of jackboots waddling around, shooting soccer moms and trauma nurses in the head, and gassing infants into comas. If those comedians should be refusing to perform in Saudi Arabia because its leaders are abusing and murdering people, then performers should be protesting America too, because right now our leaders are doing the same thing, so let those comedians do whatever. It makes no difference.

(Anonymous) 2026-04-22 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
Taking a job at a comedy club/event organized by those in the comedy community is part of being in comedy. I generally don't have an issue with that.

Taking a job funded by and for rich oligarchs/government is giving said governing entity soft power, because you are participating in and benefitting from soft power propaganda.

So whatever reasons all those comedians have to have taken that job, they have to live with that. Trying to be all "well America sucks, why didnt anyone get mad at Bill Burr for making money doing comedy in America or when he would go perform in the UK?"
Because
1) those governing bodies didnt pay for the gigs Bill Burr did
2) he heavily criticized the US and western culture in his sets (didnt when he was in Saudi Arabia
3) after seeing him participate in a government using money to try to distract people from the atrocities they commit, his criticisms in the past ring so hollow and fake. This is why people don't like a lot of those comedians and are critical of them. Gaining fans and fame from criticizing one's own government but will take propaganda money from a government that does similar/the same things to their own citizens?? And Whitney Cummings, Bill Burr and Dave Chappell have the fucking nerve to whine and moan that they didn't do anything wrong?? Fuck off.