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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-16 09:21 am

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Because I'm getting tons of PMs and stuff about this: stuff featuring actual porn of lolicon/shota/whatever will be linked, or was supposed to be just linked, just like every other secret featuring explicit porn. But sometimes I make mistakes and a secret gets by that should have been just linked. If a secret is posted that should be linked or warned for, notify me in the name the fandom thread and I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Unfortunately, secrets about lolicon/shota will not be banned because some people think it's wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think fic about rape or gore is wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think slash is wrong or gross or whatever. I'm sure everyone agrees that actual child porn is a bad thing. Lolicon/shota is not actual child porn.

Once again, I'm sorry for letting #127 get past my radar yesterday, and will try not to let it happen again.

[identity profile] ayeayes.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone was molested by someone of the opposite sex, does that mean they should be traumatized by a picture of a man and a woman kissing? :|

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, what if it did? Should secrets with pictures of people kissing be hidden with a link? A triggering image is a triggering image, no matter how few people it triggers.

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, you are serious.


I'd recommend sitting in the sun for a bit until your brain germinates.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry if not exposing people to stuff that can trigger them is something you're against.

warning - mention of common triggers, may be triggery

[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I shouldn't be rising to this, but I will anyway -

Peoples' triggers can, obviously, be anything. It is totally, practically impossible to censor absolutely everything under the suspicion that something innocent could trigger someone. Remember when Case received a comment from someone who wanted to be warned for a picture of a spider that someone was using on a secret, and how in the next post he warned for every single thing in the post to demonstrate how stupid an idea that is?

HOWEVER, the least we can do as decent human beings is warn for things which are common triggers, like child rape or suicide. If we can't warn for individual, specific triggers, we CAN warn for big general triggers that are likely to get people. It's a damn noble cause and it doesn't need strawmen like you making the decent side look like homophobes.


For reference, I don't have any triggers, just a few weird phobias that I'm not going to complain about because they're really weird and I am not everyone.

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[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
A+ ty

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[identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Extremely well said. :D

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Remember when Case received a comment from someone who wanted to be warned for a picture of a spider that someone was using on a secret, and how in the next post he warned for every single thing in the post to demonstrate how stupid an idea that is?

I don't and I would appreciate the link!

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[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I did try googling but I haven't been able to find it - I'll ask Case later.

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you <3

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[identity profile] bassair.livejournal.com 2010-01-24 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Just been surfing through this entry out of boredom and I found this. Sorry to jump into a whole other conversation, but [livejournal.com profile] firefly99, did you ever find that link? I, for one, would be rather interested in seeing it:)

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously trying to say that KISSING, something people see their PARENTS and people walking down the street doing that has no violent intent whatsoever, is the same kind of trigger as images of RAPE and MOLESTATION?

Levels exist, hon.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-16 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And are you seriously trying to tell other people what is and isn't okay to be triggered by? Who are you do decide what's worthy of being a trigger and what isn't?

Individual experiences do exist.

[identity profile] saramiskismet.livejournal.com 2009-12-16 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of trigger. So I acknowledged that theoretically it could be a trigger. If something as, imo, innocent as that is a trigger though, that's kind of difficult to protect them from. And it's something that is labelled ahead of time as being behind the cut (NSFW, you can imagine what sort of things that entails) so it's different from the things that are usually posted as links.