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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-18 04:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1078 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1078 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] zalixethbe.livejournal.com 2009-12-18 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that people who jump on bandwagons of loving/hating a franchise without actually knowing anything about it are generally very annoying. And I say this as someone who's been a fan of various big fads and popular franchises at times.

However, I don't mind the mindless hating of Twilight as much as other bandwagon-jumping behavior, because Twilight actually has objectionable content in my opinion. It's not just that it's poorly written and boring and lacks character development and a coherent plot and so on; or that SMeyer shoehorns in her opinions on sex, marriage, and babies. Those are some of the reasons that I don't enjoy the book, but it's not my job to go around telling people they can't like something just because it's what I deem to be subpar quality. But the underlying messages in Twilight really are very offensive to me, and I don't like seeing something like that gain momentum with impressionable young girls. Edward and Bella's relationship is extremely unhealthy, but in my experiences with young Twilight fans, very few of them seem to realize that. They want a boyfriend "just like Edward", which is alarming to me. It's the difference between reality and fantasy, but not in the obvious sense of "magic is not real", or "you do not have superpowers", which I think most kids do grasp pretty easily. This is more subtle than that- it's about the difference between what is acceptable in a dark romantic fantasy (stalking, overprotective behavior, isolation from friends and family, a partner who continually tells you they are dangerous, etc.) and what is acceptable in a real-life romantic relationship (none of the aforementioned). I'm sure there are lots of girls out there who do recognize that, but I also know that there are lots of girls who don't see that difference. And that worries me.

So for that reason, I don't mind seeing people turning against Twilight, really for whatever reason. I mean, I'd prefer that they understand the reasons I just mentioned, but really, the less publicity/money/hype the series receives is the better, in my opinion.

[identity profile] muffinman-owns.livejournal.com 2009-12-19 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I was probably the only 14 year old who never felt that the creepy relationship between Bella and Edward was glorified to the point of making me want one like theirs.

I feel like when girls say they want a boyfriend "just like Edward", people are too quick to assume exactly what about Edward they'd want in a future boyfriend. Just from asking around out of curiosity, it's not really about Edward as a whole--it's about specific characteristics he has that girls seem to like, such as his outward appearance (Even though I think he's ugly), or his protectiveness. Some girls also like that he truly cared for Bella enough to not doing things that would hurt her (such as sex, ect).
And I..don't really think that's so bad to ask for. If a girl said they wanted a boyfriend who would watch them while they slept all night, every night, or one that killed people in an instant for them, yeah--I would be alarmed. But otherwise I think a lot of girls are picking human characteristics that shouldn't be so looked down upon. Maybe that's just my impressions of it, but I don't know.