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⌈ Secret Post #1085 ⌋

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102.

[How I Met Your Mother]

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103.

[A Very Potter Musical]

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104.

[The Man From U.N.C.L.E]

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[X-Men: Evolutions]

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[Oscar Nuñez]

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108.

[Atop the Fourth Wall]

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[Dollhouse]

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[Forever Knight]

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[The Nanny]

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112.

[Blur]

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113.

[The Thick of It]

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114.

[David Walliams/Jimmy Carr]

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[Hetalia]

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[Josie Lawrence and Richard Vranch]

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[Watchmen]

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[B. D. Wong/Law and Order: SVU/Mulan]

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[Star Trek]

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120.

[Lie to Me]

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121.

[X/1999 & the Sims 2]

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122.

[as the world turns]

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123.

[Journeyman Project 3]

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124.

[Princess Tutu]

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125.

[Never Mind the Buzzcocks]

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126.

[Yo Gabba Gabba]

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[Merlin RPS]

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137.

[Jason Marsden]

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138.

[The Happening]

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139.

[Death Machine]

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[Josh Groban & Trading Yesterday]

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[Taking Woodstock]

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[Across The Universe]

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[Sufjan Stevens]

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[Lie to Me]

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[Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce GO!]

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149. [SPOILERS for Angel: The Series]

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150. [SPOILERS for Misfits]

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151. [SPOILERS for KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2]

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152. [SPOILERS for Torchwood]

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153. [SPOILERS for The Slayers! NEXT & TRY]

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154. [SPOILERS for The Princess and the Frog]

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Oh he's seriously damaged, which is why he does shit like bringing Owen back from the dead because he's "not ready" to lose him. I definitely didn't see annoyance in CoE between him and Ianto. I'm not an OTP'er but I thought his feelings were pretty clear. He's just- so fucked up. I wish the writing before CoE had been more consistent, and yeah, I wish Barrowman had more skills. But there's so much THERE- I guess that's what fanfic is for.

I just don't see any love from Jack's side in CoE until after Ianto is dead. I know people who hadn't watched series one and two who were confused about why Jack was so upset about Ianto dying since he hadn't shown much love or even interest in him earlier in CoE.

I can agree with you about wishing the writing had been more consistant. If the Jack/Ianto relationship in series one and two had been more like the one we were shown in CoE, there probably wouldn't be as many upset Jack/Ianto fans.

Ok, now I'm just CONFUSED.

In the beginning of CoE, they talk about being a couple, and they have that passionate kiss before Jack blows himself up, and when Jack finds out Gwen is pregnant, he says to Ianto "We're having a baby" like it's the three of theirs, and- sure, Jack isn't the most expressive guy on the planet, but I do not buy into the "Jack was mean to poor Ianto who loved him" theory of fandom.

I think we were supposed to understand that Jack didn't want to care about Ianto as much as he wound up doing, because he knew it had to end badly. Cause it's *always* gonna end badly for Jack, seeing as he can't ever die.

My husband never watched an ep of TW before CoE and he got that Jack/Ianto were in love. So. Some of this can be blamed on writing/acting. I guess the rest is just personal interpretation.

I just didn't see it at all. Ianto's love was obvious, but I saw nothing beyond faint lust and some fondness from Jack until Ianto was actually dying. Their relationship in series two felt so much more natural that the awkwardness in CoE just made me think they should stop whatever it was they were doing together and find people who were better for them. And then Ianto died and Jack turned into a sudden pile of angst.

Personal view and opinion, of course, but that's really how I saw it.

I have spoken to people who didn't understand why Jack was so upset when Ianto died, though.

Oh, awkwardness- yes. I did see some of that. I think it was supposed to be about them figuring out what they meant to one another- the dreaded 'couple' word, and of course, the big unspoken L word. The problem was they squished it into only four episodes, which was nowhere near enough time to deal with something like loving an immortal guy (I mean, the Dr. and Rose got SEASONS to deal) and then there was plot, and it was all too fast. But yes, yes. Awkwardness.

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