[ SECRET POST #1097 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1097 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Harvest Moon]


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103.
[James McAvoy]


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104.
[The Royle Family]


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105.
[Merlin]


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106.
[Hustle]


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107.
[Kate Beckinsale/Billie Piper]


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108.
[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]


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109.
[The Big Bang Theory]


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110.
[HBO's a song of ice and fire]


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111.
[The Mighty Boosh]


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112.
[Transformers (2007)]


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113.
[Dr Who]


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114.
[G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra]


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115.
[GZSZ]


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116.
[Christina Cole/Tom Riley]


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117.
[Kuroshitsuji]


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118.
[Claude & Louis Simonon]


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119.
[Muppets]


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120.
[King of Queens]


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121.
[Quirrellmort, A Very Potter Musical]


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122.
[So You Think You Can Dance Canada]


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123.
[Princess and the Frog]


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124.
[Persona 3]


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125.
[Val Kilmer, RDJ, and Jude Law]


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126.
[NCIS]


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127.
[Hanna Is Not A Boy's Name]


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128.
[Pokemon]


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129.
[Blackfly]


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130.
[TNA Wrestling]


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131.
[Amar en Tiempos Revueltos]


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132.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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133.
[Animorphs]


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134.
[Amanda Palmer]


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135.
[Colin Morgan/Bradley James]


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136.
[Percy Jackson]


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137.
[Star Trek]


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138.
[Manos: Hands of Fate/MST3K]


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139.
[Shakira/Danzig]


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140.
[Howard Wolowitz/The Big Bang Theory]


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141.
[Mint Royale]


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142.
[Dark Angel]


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143.
[Antony Hegarty and Marianne Faithfull]


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144.
[Eureka]


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145.
[Criminal Minds]


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146.
[All Creatures Great and Small]


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147.
[Ray Bolger & Judy Garland]


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148.
[The Beatles]


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149.
[Yuri Lowenthal/Tara Platt]


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150.
[Halo]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 120 secrets from Secret Submission Post #157.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[muselolita.livejournal.com]

I tried. I tried for a long time. I pretended to like her for the sake of friends who were obsessed with her, but it was really just tolerating her when all along I found her grating and annoying. I respect a person who finds a niche that needs to be filled and fills it, but that's all she doing. She just cashing in on an unrepresented fan base. They only like her because there's nothing else out there like her for them to like. It's like how I'll eat ramen when I have literally nothing else in the cabinet to eat.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh LOL, I love your ramen analogy, I don't really know who this Amanda person is, but that was a pretty clear picture you painted there.

[muselolita.livejournal.com]

It's become my go-to analogy for Amanda Palmer, actually. It's easiest way to summarize how I feel about her presence in the mainstream music industry.

[(Anonymous)]

That has to be one of the most uninformed things I have every read here and that really says something. There are a lot of performers who are somewhat close to Amanda's style of performing. Modern cabaret is nothing new. You may not know of these performers but followers of the genre do. Amanda has performed the same styles since she was very young, never wavered, and has fans because they like her, not because they don't have a choice.

Don't like her? Fine. But please do not go around talking about a genre you know nothing about.

[muselolita.livejournal.com]

Sure there are plenty of other cabaret-type acts. But are any of them as well-known in the mainstream and accessible to the common person as Amanda Palmer/Dresden Dolls are?

[(Anonymous)]

In this internet age? Hell yes.

[muselolita.livejournal.com]

I don't agree with that. How would someone who'd never heard anything in the genre come across anything other than/before Amanda Palmer? Yes, people who are hard fans of hers go looking for more obscure bands, but people who are "meh" about her, won't. She is the first thing you find in that genre and for some people who don't absolutely adore the genre, she's probably the only thing they find as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you stick to only one genre? Ever go out and actually see a show? There are tons of ways to learn about other performers, including for those new to the genere. Through other fans and by attending shows is the typical, but anyone could do a google search about the genre and find myspaces for the acts with links to their songs and dates for their shows. Who knows how many are on youtube. Just research the genre and the artists come flowing out and far more than just Amanda.

[(Anonymous)]

Last.fm is one very easy way.

I had a ton of dark cabaret and other similar groups recced at me there thanks to having just some Dresden Dolls & AP on my playlist.

[(Anonymous)]

Ha, ever been to Portland? Been to NY? Even L.A? Heck yes, they are tons of them performing and, if you're into the genre, you typically find them through other performers. You see a show with one artist, find out about another through them, ect ect. And my God, with the internet it is beyond easy. Then again, judging by the styles of music listed in your user interests, you don't strike me as the type of person who would know this.... though you like to talk about it as though you do.

[muselolita.livejournal.com]

No, actually. I've never been outside the midwest because some people in this world don't have the resources to do so. But way to make yourself look like an asshole by suggesting that to know anything about the genre you must have the ability to travel.

And which artists are you referring to? PJ Harvey? Tori Amos? Rob Zombie? Nick Cave? Marilyn Manson? Oh, no, you're saying because I like Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers that all my other musical tastes are completely negated. How open-minded of you.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, you don't travel, but could you stop talking about things you know nothing about? First this genre and now twisting what I said. I asked if you had been there, didn't say you had to be in order to know the genre. What I am saying is it is far reaching.

I've known people who became fans of the genre while living in the same area as you and mostly through the internet. Yes, many find Amanda first because she is well known, but it doesn't mean she's the be all end all of the genre or that people don't have other choices, like you stated. It also doesn't mean she is cashing in just because she happens to be the more well known.

I just think you sounded very naive and rude (even if you didn't intend to) to act like you know anything about the genre, when none of the artists you listen to even belong in it.

[gershwhen.livejournal.com]

You hang in there, you're fighting the battle on behalf of many of us and doing a great job!!

[(Anonymous)]

Damn, if you wanted to sound like a pretentious asshole, you really succeeded. Congratulations.
By the way, you do know that there is a world outside of the US, right?
(Also? It's etc., not ect.)

[phaetonschariot.livejournal.com]

*has no opinion in this debate, but lives on the other side of the world*

Even when big name musicians come here, they don't often come to my city.

[sidewinder.livejournal.com]

Thank you, anon!

[(Anonymous)]

They only like her because there's nothing else out there like her for them to like.

lol wut.

I like her music because I like it. If you don't, oh well. No skin off my back.

I don't get people who feel a need to psychoanalyze liking or disliking certain musical performers. Don't get it anymore than I guess some folks don't get Amanda.

[that-evening.livejournal.com]

THIS. Why does it have to be a big deal? You either like her or you don't. I don't know why someone even bothers to make a secret/comment with "I don't like her". And the secret there is what? Even worse is people saying they pretended to like her. Really? You have such a small sense of self that you had to pretend to like someone you didn't for the sake of friends? Oh, babies, grow up and grow a spine. You hate her? It's not a big deal! Just let us fans be.

[villainism.livejournal.com]

The problem is that I've known fans who won't just let people who hate her, hate her. They treated any dislike of her like it was some kind of blasphemy, and they basically said anyone who didn't just shit their pants over her was an idiot. Do they speak for all fans? Definitely not. But her fans are without a doubt the most obnoxious fans I've ever met, personally, with Gaiman fans coming in a close second. Those two are like a match made in pretentious teenager/Hot Topic demographic heaven.

[that-evening.livejournal.com]

Well, I think the people dealing with such "friends" who can't accept their differences should find better friends. I've always been very passionate about what I like but I accept if someone doesn't like it. In the end, what's it matter?

[sidewinder.livejournal.com]

The problem is that I've known fans who won't just let people who hate her, hate her. They treated any dislike of her like it was some kind of blasphemy, and they basically said anyone who didn't just shit their pants over her was an idiot.

I've had that experience with "true believer" fans in MANY a fandom, though. Firefly (and Joss Whedon in general), Due South, Battlestar Galactica, U2, etc., just to name a few. It's not a phenomenon exclusive or even in my experience more common in AP fandom than elsewhere.

It sucks when it happens in ANY fandom IMHO. We should be allowed to like and dislike what we want, and trying to push something too hard never works and often leads to resentment and intense hatred instead of the supposed desired effect (goodness knows I run screaming if anyone puts Due South on in my vicinity, after having people try to push it on me too hard too many times...)

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, that's so different to any experience I've had. Not a single one of my friends likes her - I constantly get ribbed about liking 'that lady with the armpit hair who looks like a man and can't sing'. It's come to the point when if I find someone who does like her, even incidentally, they are my new best friend. It's practically the default among anyone I know to either not know her music, or claim it makes your ears bleed.

[saladzombie42.livejournal.com]

When it comes to obnoxious fans, I feel that if you dislike Lady Gaga you get a lot more backlash, or at least, I have in this case. Perhaps it's because the ones I've physically encountered are all of the high school age variety, but if I dare mention I'm not a Lady Gaga fan, or make a negative comment about her clothing, I get reamed out. I've been told I don't understand real music, that I'm just jealous and wish that I could be like her, that it's no wonder I dress in plain clothes because how dare I not recognize her fashion prowess, etc. I don't see why you can't just not like someone's music, be them Lady Gaga or Amanda Palmer.

Also, Great Mouse Detective=awesome :D

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

They only like her because there's nothing else out there like her for them to like.

um, no. I love her because I love her; I love her music, love her attitude, love her balls, love her writing. If you don't that's totally fine and tbh I have no idea why you spent however long pretending to be into her because you had friends who were, but just because you don't like her on her own merits doesn't mean no one out there actually does.

[poisontea.livejournal.com]

They only like her because there's nothing else out there like her for them to like.

Yeah, nope. I really like some of her songs, don't care about some others, and like tons of other bands and artists just as much. Good try at pigeonholing everyone you don't agree with, though?