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⌈ Secret Post #1097 ⌋

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[Harvest Moon]

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[James McAvoy]

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[The Royle Family]

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[Merlin]

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[Hustle]

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[Kate Beckinsale/Billie Piper]

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108.

[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]

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[The Big Bang Theory]

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[HBO's a song of ice and fire]

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[The Mighty Boosh]

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[Transformers (2007)]

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[Dr Who]

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[G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra]

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[GZSZ]

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[Christina Cole/Tom Riley]

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[Kuroshitsuji]

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[Claude & Louis Simonon]

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[Muppets]

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[King of Queens]

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[Quirrellmort, A Very Potter Musical]

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[So You Think You Can Dance Canada]

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[Princess and the Frog]

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[Persona 3]

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125.

[Val Kilmer, RDJ, and Jude Law]

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[NCIS]

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127.

[Hanna Is Not A Boy's Name]

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[Pokemon]

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[Blackfly]

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[TNA Wrestling]

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[Amar en Tiempos Revueltos]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist]

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[Animorphs]

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134.

[Amanda Palmer]

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135.

[Colin Morgan/Bradley James]

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[Percy Jackson]

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[Star Trek]

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[Manos: Hands of Fate/MST3K]

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[Shakira/Danzig]

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[Howard Wolowitz/The Big Bang Theory]

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[Mint Royale]

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[Dark Angel]

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[Antony Hegarty and Marianne Faithfull]

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[Eureka]

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[Criminal Minds]

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[All Creatures Great and Small]

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[Ray Bolger & Judy Garland]

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[The Beatles]

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[Yuri Lowenthal/Tara Platt]

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[Halo]

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Although I like the pairing, until recently I didn't want to see it be canon. I don't have faith that writers on most shows can do a canon pairing justice. I've seen too many screwed up, and this has the added "bonus" of being a procedural, which tend to fail at relationships even more than "regular" dramas. (And the way Brennan dealt with the possibility in his interviews last year really made me think that he would screw it up.)

With that being said, the constant bashing and hate is turning me more and more into a Tony/Ziva lover and making me start to think I want it to be canon. I effing hate what this fandom has become recently. I used to like that I didn't care what people shipped and that they didn't care what I shipped. You (the general "you", not specifically directed at the OP) don't see it? Fine. But please don't actively speak out against it/talk sh*t about it/campaign against it.

I want to go back to the way things were even just 2 or 3 years ago. :(

That's a really good point actually. I'm very new to the NCIS fandom. I apparently ship a rare pairing and a controversial pairing, and all I hear is "Your ship is so disgusting." Well, I could say the same thing about *your* (general) ship, but jeez, to each his own.

Wait, don't you ship McGee/Abby? Didn't I try to help you find stories about them? Am I remembering wrong, or do you have a different primary pairing?

I definitely ship them... Someone told me they weren't popular. Haha.

They aren't "popular" in terms of fan material about them. I think there are probably more Gibbs/Abby fanworks than McGee/Abby fanworks. However, I don't think that they are disliked in fandom as far as I have seen.

Ahh okay, I see what you're saying. Someone told me most hate them! I totally get you now. :)

I'll be honest with you Meredith, it is 50% the rabid "Tiva" fans who are making me hate Tony/Ziva as a 'ship. I probably wouldn't be quite so opposed to the bare idea if it weren't for them, though I really don't think they work together like that. You, at least, are reasonably sane about it.

I'm a TiVA fan and apart of the no-tiva community here because I do understand the dislike and I like the opinions BUT I have to say for all the rabid TiVA fans there are probably as many hypocritical anti-TiVA fans who only want TonyTonyTony or Gibbs centric stuff or just slash (which more than likely would actually sink the show just as quickly as they think TiVA will, if not faster.)

I think the rabid TIVA fans come from the official CBS board which is unmoderated and unruly though, when I read stuff there, it makes me hate TIVA too.

And I get the feeling too, when a fandom suddenly becomes big and one pairing gets all the focus. It's why I hate House. I've been watching it for a few years and then all the sudden everythings all Huddy and it makes me want to stab someone.

It might be based on where I visit? On entertainment sites like Entertainment Weekly and TV Guide, I'd say about half of the people are moderate, whether they are for or against Tony/Ziva. About 1/4 of the people that are left are enthusiastic Tony/Ziva shippers. The rest (the majority of the vocal people) are very anti-Tony/Ziva. At least the last time I checked. (I got very irked and gave up reading comments about NCIS in those locations for the most part.)

On LJ, whether it is just coincidence that my newsletter nights fall as they do or it is just the way the episode reaction posts go or whatever, but I'd say of the people that have a strong opinion, I definitely see much more anti-Tony/Ziva than pro-Tony/Ziva. I think what makes it worse for me is that a lot of the news posts and the like that I see now tend to be in the anti-Tony/Ziva community and thus if I want to discuss a news article, the slant is strongly anti-Tony/Ziva.

I think my "favorite" was the post that talked about a poll about the couple and it was stated that people should continue to keep up their campaigning to CBS to keep the couple apart. Really? I don't campaign against any couple, so why is it considered okay to actively campaign against this one?

Again, I'm not claiming this is a completely representational study of the fandom; it's just what I've seen.

I have 3 couples that I'd consider my "main" ships. (The Abby/Ziva of your icon is one of them.) And, honestly, I can see the subtext/chemistry between a number of couples, even if I don't ship them for whatever reason. I don't care what people ship, and I really wish people wouldn't care what I ship. (Or, at least, that they would keep their virulent feelings to personal journals/vents.) The horses have probably already bolted regarding that issue, however. :(

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