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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-01-11 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #1102 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1102 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

This isn't even all the Who secrets there are, just the ones I randomly found today.

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 325 secrets from Secret Submission Post #158.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
133. http://i48.tinypic.com/sqmpzk.jpg

[identity profile] revulo.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm...yeeeeaaaaah.
I've got nothin'.

[identity profile] alienchrist.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If something's making you uncomfortable to write, then there are probably a lot of issues surrounding it that you probably need to address, and now is not the time to write this. Sometimes an idea can be hot and still not a great idea to write. The few times I've written seriously-coersive shota in fanfiction and RP, I thought I could deal with it and ended up seriously upsetting myself. I thought I would be alright with separating the bad things that happened to me from the bad things I was doing with my character for the sake of porn, but it ended up making me feel horrendously.

Honestly, while I'm not the type of person to say 'don't write this' or 'this is a bad thing to write,' there are times when stuff like that is going to harm more than hurt. I can't define your boundaries or issues for you, of course, but my advice would be to be kinder to yourself. I don't think you're a bad person or messed up for wanting to write something like that - I'm in the same boat. On the other hand, remember that right now you have the power say yes or no - which is something you didn't have when you were abused - and you can make that decision for Luke, too.

If you're thinking about that trauma and how much it hurt you when you're about to write something that mirrors that event, even if it's a 'rewrite' wherein you, as an author, understand the difference between the fantasy and the reality - again, I say, perhaps now is not the time to write this story. Maybe it's time to write something else, something that will help you get through this and express more of what you went through.

For me, I found out that as much as I like shota, what my heart really wanted to write a lot of the time was more realistic depictions of what it's like to be put through that kind of situation, and adults facing up and dealing with the consequences. As far as 'fantasy' went, I end up writing a lot more stories where father-figures are good to their children. I found that satisfied me a lot more, emotionally - 'allowing' myself to look at those relationships in that way, instead of a sexual one.

I don't know if any of this will help you. I just want you to know that you're not alone, and having experienced similar feelings, I do not think you are weird, disgusting, or mixed-up. Again, be kind to yourself, anon.

[identity profile] avocado-love.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, remember that right now you have the power say yes or no - which is something you didn't have when you were abused - and you can make that decision for Luke, too.

Not the OP by any stretch of the imagination, but this? I sort of want to print this out and frame it.

[identity profile] alienchrist.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I would have to say that's the one 'basic fact' that I keep returning to as a major lesson from therapy. Re-victimization is one of the worst potholes on the road to healing and it's one that abuse survivors tend to throw themselves to unwittingly, because they were never taught or never woke up to the 'basic fact' in their adult life. The other one, as I reiterated several times is 'be kind to yourself.' I can't say I've learned either one 100%, but if it helps you to print it out, go for it. It's advice that's helped me improved my life basically every day since I've come to it.

[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god I love everything about this post so much.

[identity profile] alienchrist.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ah wow. Thank you. ;;;

[identity profile] laytonmeme.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This embodies everything perfect about a reply comment to this kind of secret. Very much seconded.

[identity profile] lyrica.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
/standing ovation

[identity profile] x-saria.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
You're amazing. D:

[identity profile] mirai-gohan.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
This is the most amazing comment I've ever read on this sort of secret. I'm not the OP, but thank you for being so gentle and understanding to them.

[identity profile] alienchrist.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people don't know what to say to something like this, or they'll be shocked, angry or disgusted - perhaps understandably so. Since I'm in a place to comment, I thought that I would. In a lot of ways I was just saying things I wish someone had said to me when I went through stuff like that. But thank you for the compliment.

[identity profile] alienchrist.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Every time I see your icon, I want to pet it! Pet it so much!

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(Anonymous) 2010-01-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
This is the OP.

I want to say thank you for writing such a thoughtful post. You hit a lot of the points I'd been thinking over, and after rereading what you said after those comments below, I'm so extremely glad that you commented. Only just now have I really started trying to get over the experience, especially after joining the Layton fandom and seeing the shota up close and personal, literally.

I think that you're completely right. I think I'll try to write something else, closer to what you're saying about adults dealing with the consequences. Even though I doubt he would deal with it quite so much, I like to think that not all men are the same.

Thank you for telling me that I'm not alone. Thank you for telling me that I'm not a crazed, psychologically disturbed child. What you said is an amazing help and inspiration.

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[identity profile] breepants.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Iiiiidk, it kinda squicks me personally. Luke looks up to the Professor as a father figure, and the Professor definitely returns the sentimentality. To see that get turned into a romantic/sex driven relationship makes it seem like the professor is infringing on some trust that they have--which I don't visualize them having.

In short, why are you writing kiddie porn anyway?

[identity profile] wings-on-flames.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, especially after being molested by a father figure.

That sure makes a fuck-load of sense.

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(Anonymous) 2010-01-11 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Most pedophiles were abused as children, this does not excuse their own pedophilia.

[identity profile] laytonmeme.livejournal.com 2010-01-11 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I've known a fair share of authors who subconsciously started to write and read shota as a form of catharsis for their own experiences. Either way, what's wrong with writing what they like? It's seriously fictionalised and no real children are in danger, so I'd say it's a fairly harmless way to go about it provided the author understands the enormity of the crime in real life (and obviously the OP here does).

(For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of shota.)

(Anonymous) 2010-01-11 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Childhood trauma stops people from doing all kinds of things. That's why it's called "trauma". Don't feel like you have to apologize for it, or justify it.

(Anonymous) 2010-01-11 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, I'd say your priorities are probably in the RIGHT place in this instance.
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[identity profile] ryntha-doghare.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, that is a pairing I never would've thought of...
Really loved that game though.