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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-01-16 04:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #1107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

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[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
He does write a good episode though.

But i do hate him for writing 'TEC/The Doctor Dances' which was all about the Doctor having sex. NO MOFFAT NO. DOCTOR + SEX = NO
(unless it's with the Master. or like a Time Lord. *such a hypocrite* cos the doctor having sex with a human is like, having sex with another species, so it's essentially bestiality. kinda. EW.)

But i do not like how he writes women generally.

(oh my i'm taking myself too seriously)

[identity profile] pentonville.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
hello Marion :V
i was just hanging around for a possible shitstorm and now i have spied you

"the doctor having sex with a human is... essentially bestiality. kinda. EW."
BUT
what of Kirk/Spock?
cos that's interspecies too

[identity profile] eternalwings.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
...When did the Doctor have sex with a human in the Doctor Dances? Did I blank something out here?

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
'Dancing' is a metaphor for sex.

Yeah i didn't realise this either till i read some giant article about it in DWM.

[identity profile] eternalwings.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I got the metaphor, it was just the tone of the comment made me think there was ACTUAL sex and I was wondering if I'd got the show wrong lol.


<3 Bernard!

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No i was just going a bit over the top.

But it is quite explicitly stated... in a metaphorical way............. <_< Bernard is the love <3

[identity profile] pentonville.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I was about to suggest something awful involving bananas and certain areas but it's probably best if i just leave the thought lingering in the air...

[identity profile] eternalwings.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL.

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
HELLO OZZA C:

YEAHHHHH. But Kirk will have sex with anything. Even (admittedly very sexy) green people. And Spock is half human.

And i am digging myself into a hole here.

I think cos Time Lords are like well, Lords of Time and shit like that that despite choosing to be humanoid (even though they don't have to be as Romana kinda proved) they are more removed from humanity than say, Vulcans (ooh crossover universes lol) because Vulcans don't really have any special seeing through time powers/regenerative, they just have a different culture. And green blood.

[identity profile] pentonville.livejournal.com 2010-01-16 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
ok
cos then i was going to ask if Spock's dada was a bad man for having an interspecies relationship.
Does that mean all creatures that choose a humanoid appearance = bestiality? Vampires are human on the outside but demon on the inside. idk why im being debatey so sorry, just bored

TO BE HONEST, the whole interspecies sex thing is a kind of sketchy area in general. Frankly I think if something's able to say 'no', you're probably safe.

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I DON'T KNOW.
I guess once it gets to the future and there are different planets with life and shit like that to deny them from having interspecies relationships would be essentially racist.

OH I DON'T KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. I NEED TO SHUT UP BEFORE GODWIN'S LAW KICKS INTO ACTION. WHICH IT'S DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO NOW I'VE MENTIONED RACISM.
If you were anyone else you would reply to this with 'You're just like Hitler then'.

OH DEAR I SHOULD SHUT UP.

I'm getting into way too many internet arguments, bawww.

[identity profile] pentonville.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha I should totally draw you as Hitler now

FOR THE MOTHERLAND!
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[personal profile] scarfman 2010-01-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)

the doctor having sex with a human is like, having sex with another species, so it's essentially bestiality. kinda. EW.

The very first companion departure from the TARDIS was on account of a crossspecies lovematch. Also Leela left the TARDIS for a Time Lord (or, if you subscribe to the class stratification theory of Time Lord society, at least a Gallifreyan). It may not be good realworld science but, in the universe where Doctor Who is set, crossspecies pairbonding between sentients is unremarkable (by which I literally mean un-remarked upon). And this is not even bringing into it what the Doctor told Grace.

(Anonymous) 2010-01-17 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this very reasonable comment which argues the point clearly and uses canon examples. Because every time I see the "Doctor + companion = beastiality" argument I start frothing at the mouth and am not fit to type a proper response.

In short, you rock.

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay :)

I was wrong and tired. Sorry!

(Anonymous) 2010-01-17 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you're a lovely person, but:

cos the doctor having sex with a human is like, having sex with another species, so it's essentially bestiality

I look forward to the day when this argument no longer exists, because it has been killed with fire.

Someone has already pointed this out; I wanted to add that while Susan is half-human, so is Handy. Plus the Doctor married Queen Elizabeth and joked about sexing her up. He told Joan to her face that he was capable of everything John Smith was capable of. I would guess he wasn't talking about sheepfucking. Let's allow this argument against fictional interspecies sex between consenting sentient beings to slip gently into that good night.

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay :)

I was wrong.

I should never go on the internet when i'm tired.

[identity profile] hanelissar.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes me so sad that this comment makes me love you and want to hug you and cry. Because I cannot remember the last time I saw someone so cheerily and rationally accepted and admitted that they were wrong in fandom.

Thank you so much for reminding me how there are lovely polite people who don't have to drag everything into angry trollish screaming because they refuse to admit they made a mistake.

Fandom needs more people like you. <3

[identity profile] pentonville.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god AWWWW, how cute are you?! :'D

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I know right <3

[identity profile] hanelissar.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
PATHETICALLY so. :D

[identity profile] totaldrwhofreak.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Your comment has made everything better <3

Thank you!

*hugs*

[identity profile] hanelissar.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, I am glad! Anything to keep the love in fandom!

*is being such a hippy today*

*hugs*

<3

(Anonymous) 2010-01-17 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I was right, you are a lovely person. This is an incredibly polite response. My intention was not to make you feel bad at all, just to point out things that you may have missed. I'm glad if I changed your mind, and I appreciate you taking my comment seriously and thinking it over.

And you're not the only one who shouldn't end up on FS in the middle of the night, god knows. Me neither. :D