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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-01-16 04:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #1107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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ext_6866: (Good point.)

[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
This!

The Killing Joke as originally written is totally Barbara getting fridged. The writer's giving Jim and Bruce motivation using Barbara as a tool to do that because she's Jim's daughter (and formerly Batgirl, unbeknownst to the Joker).

That another writer took the character who thank goodness wasn't outright killed and used all the great potential she had is great and proof that fridging can be undone and different writers can use characters in different ways.

Sometimes it seems like people think saying she was fridged is an insult to Barbara or Oracle, like you don't see she's awesome. It's more a criticism of Alan Moore for not seeing her. "Cripple the bitch" indeed!

OP better listen!

[identity profile] parsimonia.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, I was about to pipe in, but you and the Anonymous above have pretty much said it already.

Barbara Gordon was fridged by Alan Moore in The Killing Joke.

The people who made her the awesome character she is as Oracle were John Ostrander and Kim Yale. Oracle is far more effective and badass than she was in her Batgirl days, and it's so important to have people with disabilities represented (everywhere, not just in comics), I think she's great the way she is. (Though I would love to see her be a bit more of an anti-ableism activist.)

But it was still a goddamn fridging.