[ SECRET POST #1107 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

I am more worried about the fact that RTD always makes broken homes for his companions. Rose's dad is dead. Martha's parents are divorced. Donna's dad is MIA or is he dead? I don't think they give a really clear answer. RTD's like the British version of Disney.

[(Anonymous)]

Only happily married people with 2.5 kids and a dog and a house in the suburbs should be on television! Anything else is just unrealistic.

Er.

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

One companion coming from a broken home is no big deal. Every new companion in the New Who coming from a broken home sends up red flags. Just like one orphan in a Disney movie is no big deal. Every other Disney hero missing a parent or having none at all is a big deal.

Yeah, try to twist that, troll. It's not working.

[(Anonymous)]

Red flags that represent the danger of... what, exactly?

I might agree that RTD has overused "missing parent/parents" as a character trait for several of his protagonists, but I'm not sure it represents anything more than his tendency to overuse anything that worked well the first time! Besides, I think RTD was careful to show the love and strength of these "nontraditional" families. Rose and Jackie, Mickey and his gran (but definitely not his mum, you're right on that,) both had a lot of love, affection and trust. Donna's father was barely mentioned, but she did have a strong and stable father-figure in Wilf. Martha's family was a big, arguing mess of people that still adored one another, which I found so true to life. While these companions' homes were not of the "two happily married parents" variety, I would hesitate to call them broken.

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

Red flags that represent the danger of... what, exactly?

Red flags don't always mean "danger". They mean "be aware". As in, "look, this is RTD's trend."

And I have no problem with RTD's families. I simply think it's odd that ALL of the companions he has written for come from households that did not have two parents. Be it a mother and father or a mother and mother or a father and father. It's always one parent is missing and usually made up by a different relative, non-relative or no one at all.

Why is that?

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

Hey, you just reminded me that Mickey, another companion, was raised without a mom and dad as well but by his grandmother. Which only solidifies my theory.

Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

And Jack lost his father as a child.

[angathol.livejournal.com]

To play devil's advocate for a moment: generally it's easier for someone to go off on adventures in fiction if they don't have too many ties back to home, hence why most male heroes are orphans or only have one parent. If they had a complete, loving family, they probably wouldn't feel the need to escape and seek adventure, or wouldn't want to.

[(Anonymous)]

I quite agree. It's a common and effective trope, that's why Disney uses it. The fairy tales and novels they base their films on feature a number of dead mothers (Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast) and orphans (Oliver Twist/Oliver & Company, The Sword in the Stone, The Jungle Book, Tarzan) and it's hardly a storytelling device invented by the House of Mouse.

[dweo.livejournal.com]

Donna's father died, but that wasn't actually RTD's fault. The actor who played Donna's father died while filming series 4. That is why they got Wilf to take his place. So blaming RTD for the lack of Donna's father is rather unfair.