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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-02-04 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #1126 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1126 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2010-02-05 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
In that case, they aren't Mary Sues, they're just plot points. Canon characters as Mary Sues, except in extreme cases like Bella Swan, goes against the original definition of the term. Arakawa isn't using Riza as some sort of wish fulfillment for herself and when you get down to it, that is the one thing that ties all Mary Sues together.

[identity profile] adraekh.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I didn't say they were Mary Sues. In fact, I quoted the part of the message saying, "Riza is not a Mary Sue," and then I expounded on that point. =|

(Anonymous) 2010-02-05 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I totally ended up mixing your post up with the other anon's posting in my head, sorry. /o\

(Anonymous) 2010-02-05 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Except that I haven't called any character a Mary Sue, either--simply pointed out that they have traits generally thought of as Sueish due to a lack of proper development.

[identity profile] adraekh.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Amendment!

Having said that, I don't know what I consider to be worse: Mary Sues or characters trying to pass off as characters when they are really just plot devices. Just food for thought.