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[ SECRET POST #114 ]

⌈ Secret Post #114 ⌋

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I can cope with slacker. It's a source of humour. There's nothing concrete saying he is hard working. BUT rape fics get old ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE BADLY WRITTEN AND ALL FOLLOW THE SAME PLOT.

I thought they'd stopped. THEY'RE ALL CROPPING UP AGAIN.

but I guess because she wasn't like...shitting out marshmallows and farting

god help me i LOL'D

especially at the image of her farting instead

because i am secretly 6 years old

oh god

ROVING GANGS OF RAPISTS WHO ALL WORK FOR CORNEO, RIGHT?

CUE RAEP DRAMA. WANGST WANGST.

LOL I KNOW I'm so immature

Because then Femto would be like "...*stops*" and hand her back over to Guts and it would be awkward and Femto would be like "See you guys" and fly off.

That is the only way the rape couldn't have been fanservice in some people's eyes.

17. I don't, either. (And I got into the series through the anime first, manga second. D:)

YOU SHOULDN'T BE READING THIS MANGA IF YOU THINK FART JOKES ARE FUNNY ESPECIALLY DURING RAPE >:O

and then Guts would be angsting and pmsing because "HE LEFT WITHOUT SAYING GOODBYYYYYYE"

and oh shi it'd turn into naruto?!

I'm sorry that some douchebag's prejudice and superiority complex has haunted you so much for so long :(

That's not what I said. It's not about focusing on those two characters, it's about accuracy to what they relationship actually is in-game. The OVA isn't reflecting that.

I understand that, for a storyline originally designed to be viewed in a game format to then be made into an animation, certain things would need alteration. But the character's personalities and relationships shouldn't come under that.

I'm just excited that people remember this picture of him.

11. Uh, Kentaro Miura himself said that her rape was supposed to be symbolic of the trust she had in Griffith, since he saves her from rape when they first met, then he saved her from rape at the Eclipse only to use her as a tool against Guts. It was emotional, and some people found how messed up it was sexy, but it wasn't meant to be sexy. He said it represented the rape of trust.

Kind of like how his symbolism with Guts' sword was supposed to be about how Guts got mixed up in the mud and blood of the earth while Griffith stayed high in the skies, but people somehow think it represents a penis...raping monsters that represent vaginas.

Do some research on his interviews? The anime made the rape a lot more erotic than the manga did. The manga had her bleeding horribly from 'down there' and showed her clearly in pain, the anime did a crappy job of showing that.

>:V This one made me angry because it wasn't ever supposed to be sexy.

3. I love misty/brock :( (Kasumi/takeshi whatever you want to call it)

2. Lol. I think a lot of people mistake falling in love with how someone RPs a character for...falling in love with the person. >_>; I try not to judge, though.

THERE WE GO =D

16. 8D AHAHAAHAAHAHAHA. I KNOW THE PAIN. MY COMM TOTALLY ABUSED BABEL FISH FOR A BIT AND IT WAS SO WEIRD AND ANNOYING. ;D I still write a bit of my post in French, however, but ensure accurate translations. (You wouldn't believe some of the crap that site turns out. I'm amazed.) People should re-translate it back before even posting because like, it makes no sense. What-so-freaking-ever.

5) Never thought of it that way, but that's a good point.

10) Whoever tells you that stuff should be kicked.

17) I don't see it either, and I came in anime first. But I rarely see slash unless someone points it out to me, so. ~~That said, ROYAI.~~

It's tricky. I want to be him, but I know I'm nowhere near that good, confident, able, anything. I, in fact, feel vastly inferior. Maybe that should have been my secret.

Namco has officially stated in its other crossover Tales franchises (Narikiri Dungeon, Tales of Fandom Gaiden, etc) that there is at least a romantic tension between the two. Colette's path is the easiest to get for a reason. Half of the game Lloyd goes on and on about "waaaah I want to save Colette I'm gonna risk our lives and the entire world to save her" and Colette's all "Lloyd's my most favoritest person in the whole wide world 8DDDDDD".

No, I don't think that this is an inaccurate portrayal of the way Namco intended their relationship to be like, regardless of whether you like the pairing or not. ~~Quite frankly, if they included some Zelos/Colette tension as well as the Lloyd/Colette, I could die happily. For realzies.~~

But yes. SERIOUS BUSINESS aside, I have a feeling I'm gonna be one of the only ones to really love the OVA because I'm wierd. Woe. >:

And why do you think it was suppose to be sexy? Because I saw it as something that should be heart breaking.

http://ew-younerd.livejournal.com/290526.html

lol

11 Not gonna lie - I cried at that part. I don't know how 'hot' it was intended to be, but it was definitely sad.

17 XDD I ... came into the fandom through manga as well and I still like it? 8D; I don't really know the appeal of it, either - the fanbase for it is pretty terrible at times, but I still like the pairing itself. XD

11. A lot of people have said it already, but... I think you missed the point. Massively.

12. As someone who tends toward rarepairs, I don't understand this at all. If you KNOW people who ship AxB are going to piss you off, then WHY ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM? Friend people who write and squee about what you want to read and squee about, collect and rec links to the things you like, and ignore everything else. It's really not that hard.

sells Guts into prostitution to Shaq the NBA star

but people somehow think it represents a penis...raping monsters that represent vaginas.

ksgfjhsdfgajsfjhsaf I LOL'd so hard I cried. ~~and got a really funny image that I'm tempted to MS Paint~~

7. Ladies' Man, maybe. Ex-Whore who gets raped? Nah!

I don't think it was meant to be sexy either! Berserk was the first manga that had me crying during such a painful scene (USUALLY I JUST GO OVER SUCH STUFF WITHOUT A SECOND LOOK) but even in the anime, by the last episode I was just in tears AND THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

Poor Caska. ;_; Then again, I mourned the loss of the first BotH so. D: WOE.

8. Yes. Yes, you are.

9. Hey, I do crossover jokes all the time!

12. Much as I'm a canon militant, I hate when the rival girl is bashed just for existing. Take Michal of Pichi Pichi Pitch. Sure, she's clingy and, deep down, she knows that Kaito was with Lucia before his memory was stolen. But she still tries, and even though it's a bad thing to do, she does it because she's afraid. She's never had another friend besides her brother, and here comes someone that's nice to her. Need I remind the fans of who else envisions a life with the perfect guy just because she saved him from drowning? Yup. Lucia.

I was trying to keep my personal preference to one side here, but since you've mentioned it - I do like the pairing, but in the same way that I like how all the potential relationships are portrayed.

No matter what canon you follow, Colette loves Lloyd. That's 100% canon, 100% acceptable to me. It's implied time and time and time again, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you follow the Colette path, then Lloyd seems to grow to return these feelings.

However, at the start of the game, Lloyd is fairly hard-headed on the issue. And should you follow just about any other path, he remains that way. Lloyd cares about Colette a great deal, but there are nine versions of this game, and it would be nice to see the OVA make more of an effort to retain that. The manga has remained suitably ambiguous, from what I've seen of it, despite changes it's been forced to make to the plot.

Even if you do follow the Colette path, Lloyd does not begin the game being madly in love with Colette. It's something that develops between them. The OVA is pushing for the pairing, and not even in the same way the game portrayed it.

Uh. I'm going to take anonymous off, because it's probably becoming kinda obvious who this is by now DX The only reason I responded anonymously in the first place was to remain consistent with the comment I'd left earlier in the post, but now I feel like a bit of a duh XD

ANYWAY, saying I'd rather have no OVA than an innaccurate one was maybe a little bit strong. I'm sure the OVA is going to be wonderful, and I really do like Lloyd/Colette. I just really do with the animation could try a little harder to preserve more of the game's own ambiguity. Lloyd really is, bless him, a blockhead when it comes to romance - he's not just bad at being romantic, he seems to have the sex drive of a rock 99% of the time XD So seeing him blushy and woeful at being denied his love-of-loves does sit a little weirdly, to me. I miss 'ndurr' Lloyd, who was smart at all the right times, but such a duh all the same.

It's really the Yggdrasill thing that bothers me more than anything else, though, if I'm quite honest. WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

Hahaha, sorry, that got really rambly. To summarize the postive points though, I will enjoy the OVA. But... I think I'm going to end up enjoying it on the sidelines, the way I'd enjoy a really amazingly elaborate Lloyd/Colette fanfiction. Because, made by Namco though it is, it's detracting one of my favourite things about Tales of Symphonia, and that makes me a little sad inside.

TL;DR MUCH DX? /ramble spam

IAWTC.

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