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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-08 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1159 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1159 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
150. http://i50.tinypic.com/n1b76a.jpg

[identity profile] julianatheorize.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So am I. And I don't really follow the comics, so I have no idea what's going on there.

[identity profile] alenxa.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the soul destruction was a giant part of how pissed I was at the time. You're the first person outside my RL social circle that I can remember having mentioned it...it's like the lovers and the haters BOTH forgot that detail. Dunno how...

[identity profile] choukoumei.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The soul being destroyed was the only true way you could get Fred to be entirely DEAD in a supernatural show. Especially since by that point Buffy/Angel characters were constantly trying to mess with the laws of nature to bring people back. I think it was also the writers way of telling the audience, "Yeah guys, Fred is dead. There's no coming back."

It sucked, but personally I was a little glad because I thought it would stop "BRING BACK FRED!" campaigns (unfortunately, it didn't.) Not because I hate Fred, but because I just get tired of those campaigns. I'm all for characters coming back here and there, but if every character who dies comes back, there's really no point of having "death" in a drama.

Plus, Illyria was kick ass. I think Acker really shined as Illyria, she definitely proved that she can be two distinctly different personalities.

[identity profile] talula728.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. The first time I watched it, I wasn't that upset, because I was absolutely sure they were going to get her back. The second time I watched it, when I knew she wasn't coming back, I cried so hard. When I say I'm upset about Fred dying, I always add "and her soul was consumed in the fires of resurrection!" So I'm with you. I don't even believe in heave, and yet still, it's not okay for Fred.

[identity profile] marisahsaaaa.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even like Fred, and the whole soul destruction thing made me sad. :(

[identity profile] leaveout.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I never liked Fred but the bit about her soul being destroyed just seemed overly cruel. Not only does she die, but she ceases to exist altogether? That's just so sad.

[identity profile] missing-mile-15.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I really disliked Fred, but even I didn't like the soul destruction thing. I also hated how she had to die for an entire episode. It was like "God Joss, we get it, she's dying. Just end it for her already, no one deserves to die like this!".

[identity profile] julianatheorize.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
this, so hard. I didn't really like Fred by the end either.

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this completely.
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[identity profile] dumdumdumbutt.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Freds death

was just

the saddest thing ever ;_;

(Anonymous) 2010-03-08 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel your pain. I'm still not over Cordelia's death. Or Wesley's.

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
OH GOD DON'T EVEN TALK TO ME ABOUT WESLEY'S DEATH.

And Illyria rescues him and he asks Illyria to pretend and... oh god.

[identity profile] alicat713.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
*SOB*

Illyria Lied

(Anonymous) 2010-03-08 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Illyria lied. She is evil, after all, and stopping the team from trying to evict her from the body she inhabited was in her best interests. The real travesty was that Angel and company believed such an obvious lie. Stupid network canceling the show and causing hasty writing. *sigh*

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel better, Joss said that if they'd gotten another season, what Illyria believed would turn out to be false. But they didn't. :(

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, and Wesley would be alive and MOTHERFUCKER it's just the worst almost-was of television (or, okay, one of the worst) ever!

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
The AtS comic season written by Joss is pretty much everything he wanted to do with S6, apparently. Wes is actually in it.

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[identity profile] choukoumei.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
What makes me sad is now that Andy Hallett has passed I can't live in my delusional world where there is an Angel movie anymore.

;_; Lornnnnneeeeee...

(Back to living in my delusional world of Serenity sequels)

[identity profile] choukoumei.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Is that what Joss said? Because I thought Fred would be back but... not.

*SPOILERS FOR THE COMICS*









In the comics there is a Fred/Illyria thing going on but I am not caught up... My impression was Illyria was still using Fred's memories and Fred is still dead as dead can be.

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(Anonymous) 2010-03-09 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, bb! Fred was my FAVORITE. (besides Angel, that is)

[identity profile] occreater.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I miss Fred so much. She was such a wonderful character. It actually scared me when she said her soul was destroyed. I couldn't really get into Angel anymore after that.

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
I was only sad for Wesley. But I was glad Fred died, she really annoyed me, so you'll probably hate me anon.

But I cried when Cordelia died.

[identity profile] glamourcorpse.livejournal.com 2010-03-10 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I am glad to hear in the comments for this thread that apparently the Fred's soul-burned up thing was a lie, but her death was still so sad anyway. There are 3 TV deaths that have made me cry and Fred and Wes fill two of those spots.

My icon is not the right mood but the only Wes or Fred related Icon I have.

[identity profile] looneymoon.livejournal.com 2010-03-10 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
The whole storyline just kills me. I think it's mainly my love for Wesley that makes me react so hard to her death :( Not to say I dislike Fred, I liked her well enough but... ugh the tragedy of it all just hurts.