[ SECRET POST #1174 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: 146

[(Anonymous)]

I've been involved in many a debate about this kind of thing, exactly, but from what I understand there are so many different reasons why women (and lesbians included in this obviously) find yaoi so appealing. There's the fact that when it's just two men, people tend to write it more... hardcore? Passionate? Rough? Generally Het writers tend to be gentler on women. Aside from that, with no woman in the fic it's easier to break off from yourself and just enjoy whatever is going on in the fic.

Anyways, as a lesbian myself, I honestly just read yaoi because I like it. I don't feel as though I need to be getting off on it or anything, but there's just something about it that I find appealing. Probably because there isn't a woman in there and so it seems less like there's someone that I'm supposed to relate to because I am a woman as well.

Regardless, I don't think there's anything wrong with someone not liking yaoi, regardless of their sexual orientation just like I'm sure you'll come to understand that there's nothing wrong with someone liking it regardless of their orientation.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I thank you very much for providing a clear answer. I never said I thought that it was wrong, though. It just confused me. Personally, I find it disappointing (and a little weird) that I can't ask a lesbian for good yuri recs. It also seems a bit ironic.

Re: 146

[(Anonymous)]

I like this comment because of how well put it is. But it is interesting because your reason of not having someone your supposed to relate to is one of the reasons I have no interest in m/m slash, and indeed less interest in gen fic and even shows and movies without women. I don't find identifying to be a problem in reading or enjoying stories. But I get it, different strokes for different folks, I just find the differences interesting.

Also, I wonder what fandoms your in, 'cause most of my het and f/f is just as passionate and rough as the few pieces of m/m I've read. I've found what is more often the case is that in het women will be ignored for descriptions of the men and that is the only time when the writers are "gentler." But most of my ships are usually not entirely based in fluffyness.

(Though I do kind of disagree with your last paragraph only because there is something that smacks me as a problem in our society if women don't want to relate to women. Like somehow we don't think of ourselves as being good enough. Which probably isn't even true and me being an anthropology student and over-analyzing. It just skeeves me out that there is such a discrepancy of yaoi versus yuri in fandom spaces like LJ where there are so many females.)