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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1174 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Every *American* person, maybe. I'm kind of tired of Americans assuming that everyone on the internet should know which words means something other than their normal meaning *to them*. Especially when it's some sort of historical insult. With English as a second language, The only thing that came to my mind was the playing card and I thought "huh funky expression, I'd have used 'call a duck a duck'" but with absolutely no other connotation.

bottom line: stop expecting the whole wide word to know every minutiae of your colloquialisms.

[identity profile] radio-nurse.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS THIS THIS THIS.

I mean, I'm Canadian and even I've never heard spade used in a racist way.

[identity profile] yatsirch.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Um, same. I had to look it up on the urban dictionary >_>

[identity profile] cantfindreverse.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree with this person, and even go so far as to say that not all Americans will know what you're talking about. I certainly didn't know it was a racial slur. America's a big place, and what might be offensive in one section of the country is completely unheard of elsewhere. I know I've used terminology that utterly confused friends of mine on the Coasts before.

(Though, it's not just Americans who do this. I read an article a few years ago where British fans of Tiger Woods flipped out because he said he was playing like a spaz. Spaz, at least in my section of the US, is a general term for someone who's being hyper and unfocused. Apparently it's really offensive in parts of Britain, though, and he had to issue a huge apology.)

[identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, like Americans being all giggly about "The Spy Who Shagged Me" while British people were all "WTF did they call that movie?"

I'll admit my American bias. Still, it looked freaky in such a secret and immediately caught my attention. It must not be as common as I'd thought. :)

[identity profile] mimine.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"spaz" is offensive because it comes from the word "spastic" and it's a derogatory term for people with Cerebral palsy. If he said he played like a "tard" would everything had been a-ok?

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not looking for an explanation of why it's offensive, y'know. They're just proving a point.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I had to think about it before I got what they're talking about, and I'll be damned if I don't feel like I'm pretty well versed in slurs in America, because I didn't learn it on the internet with a handy dandy internet dictionary to tell me what I ought to associate with a certain word, I learned that shit from hearing it from actual racist people in the American south (well, before they died, and then there's that whole 'well, I grew up in that time period so even though I don't hate *insert race* I still use it every now and then' commentary to work with...no seriously, it's the most bizarre excuse ever), and I've maybe heard it once. I don't really remember it, if I have.

[identity profile] lovepollution.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree. I'm British and this is the first time I've heard anyone say that that expression is at all racist. 'Call a spade a spade' is a pretty common British expression, and by no means a racist one (just means saying something as it is).

[identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
True, true, I did assume, and sorry about that. :)

[identity profile] yatsirch.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hurray for learning new things every day?

*makes a note to avoid that word*

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This, exactly this

[identity profile] xenafox.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're going to group us all, thanks for that. *Is an American who totally didn't even get the "spade = black insult" until reading it in this thread*

(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
LOL sorry, didn't mean it. I will endeavor not to make any more sweeping generalizations in response to sweeping generalizations XD

[identity profile] eibborn.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I feel like people need to be reminded of this every now and again.

[identity profile] roxiful.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this!!!