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⌈ Secret Post #1180 ⌋

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I hate fandom because of secrets like these.

OMG RACISM!??one!1

when did racism stop being about intent and start being about anything you can vaguely connect to an oppressed nation? I'm just glad real life isn't like this, there'd never be any good television.

Ugh, seriously.

when did racism stop being about intent

It never was. Do you really think people were so different 50 or 100 or 250 years ago that they all had evil intentions towards those of other races? The vast majority of oppression has always been justified as being for the oppressed people's good.

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soymade.livejournal.com - 2010-03-30 01:44 (UTC) - Expand

It's possible to say 'I acknowledge that this videogame/film/television series has racial/sexuality/gender issues, and I enjoy it in spite of those'. So long as your enjoyment of it isn't rooted purely in the offensive aspects, and it clearly isn't, I don't think you have anything to apologise for.

Really?

Really?

You don't think speaking out against *ist stereotypes, and then purchasing and consuming media that perpetuates those stereotypes is hypocritical or harmful?

Frankly, my dear, money talks. And its voice is far louder than the angriest LJ wank, no matter how much you'd like to believe otherwise.

When you consume media that endorses *isms, you implicitly condone the existence of *isms in society. Period.

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(Anonymous) - 2010-03-30 02:34 (UTC) - Expand

You're doing it wrong.

The game never says she's "native American". She might just be a British chick who likes to dress like that.

In fact, the game isn't even set in our wold. There is no America...

Anyway, the developers poke fun at a lot of things, in the first game I thought Mumbo Jumbo was a racist interpretation of African "natives".

Jamjars is a sort of rude interpretation of military personnel. It's funny because you're supposed to realize no one actually acts like that.

In fact, let's touch on how sexist the depection of Bottle's wife is, or how insensitive it is for characters to chastise Blobdelda for her possible "mental disability" or "horizontal challenge".

In fact, the whole "witch" thing should offend anyone in this modern day who practices any from of magical art.

The entire game is just busting at the seams with things that aren't PC. See: SpongeBob Squarepants Explains the Nuclear Family of the New Millennium (http://www.violentacres.com/archives/256/spongebob-squarepants-explains-the-nuclear-family-of-the-new-millennium/).

Just because there's no America in their world doesn't mean she wasn't based on Native American stereotypes.

Re: retaliation ensign

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(Anonymous) - 2010-03-29 22:57 (UTC) - Expand

"... anyone in this modern day who practices any from [sic] of magical art."

So... no one?

eibborn.livejournal.com - 2010-03-29 23:36 (UTC) - Expand

ferricent.livejournal.com - 2010-03-30 00:03 (UTC) - Expand

I think there are plenty of things you can feel a lot worse about in terms of race issues than Banjo Tooie, anon.

I can sort of understand where you're coming from, since I have trouble disconnecting issues from stories. However, it is possible to recognize the flaws in a piece of work, and still enjoy it. Otherwise, I'd never be able to watch Gone With the Wind.

I love how white people think they can somehow absolve themselves of their privilege by berating themselves for it online.

Shut the fuck up, anon. Just shut the fuck up.

What do you want people to do? Just answer that. Specifically, what the hell are we supposed to do?

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interrobangings.livejournal.com - 2010-03-30 13:37 (UTC) - Expand

1. You've already purchased it.
2. You know it has glaring flaws.
3. You can enjoy it anyway.

Purchasing new materials that you enjoy despite problems like this is your call, but geez, you don't have to feel bad if you're enjoying an otherwise good game that you bought years ago. If you acknowledge the flaws, then don't let anyone insult you for liking it.

exactly

Wow. I sincerely doubt that the makers of this game had any EVIL RACIST INTENTIONS, and it totally baffles me that people get their panties in a twist over minor shit like this. All this handwringing over silly stereotypes is, well, silly. Why not save the angst for real racist issues?

tl;dr: Settle down Chewbacca, and enjoy the damned game.

Ahahaha, "real racist issues".

HELL YEAH MEGABYTE!

I'm wondering if you were expecting a pat on the back for this.

Agreed with everyone else; just enjoy the game. Nobody cares, and I mean that in a reassuring way- not in a passive aggressive one. :P

I was actually more expecting to be chewed out, tbh. The replies to this are turning out a lot more positive(?) than I thought they would have.

I only remember the first game, never played the sequel, but know I'm kinda curious as to who OP is referring to...anyone got a clue(like, link to a picture of said character or something)?

I, uh. Never really noticed. I was too busy having fun.