[ SECRET POST #1216 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1216 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 351 secrets from Secret Submission Post #174.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - empty comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'll bite, who do you think I am?

It concerns you, because you think there's something wrong with people writing about trauma and suffering, because you think there's something wrong with people examining the human experience through fiction, an experience that often includes pain. It concerns you because you think life imitates fiction and not the other way around.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

I think it is a cycle - life and fiction don't cause each other, but they are linked and can feed within one another. There is nothing WRONG with people writing about trauma and suffering: some of my favorite shows, movies and books deal entirely with those subjects. There's a difference between portraying it and sensationalizing it, but even if there weren't, there is a huge focus in fiction on the worst parts of life, a focus that's gratuitous and often has no purpose or greater lessons than to just entertain us. Do I judge you? No. Of course not. Do I think it's normal? Absolutely. Does the fact that it is normal bother me? Yeah, it kinda does.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay then, serious question. Do you mean to be condescending, or is it completely unintentional. Because when you say "I don't judge you, it's normal, you can't help it" that sounds really condescending. It's like you think it's something embarrassing and shameful that I should be fighting against, but which is easy to give in to.

And I don't view it that way at all. I would be upset if anyone passed a law saying I can't read about death and pain and suffering. Yes, it's because I've been socially conditioned to consider it normal, all of that. I would be upset if my friend died, too, and that's because I've been socially conditioned to consider that bad, all of that, too.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

Mmkay, not seeing the friend dying analogy, really. And what I meant by it's normal you can't help it, is most people can't help what they are attracted to. They simply are. There's a person in the secrets above who has a Nazi fetish; some people have a rape kink. They can't help being attracted to it (they might not even want to 'help' it), it's what they find sexy. I never meant to imply that it's wrong, or shameful - didn't mean it to be condescending. A lot of people when talking about their rape kink say, "It's what I find arousing, I can't help it", which is what I took it from. I don't mean to be condescending to anyone.

I find that the pervasiveness of violence of any kind - sexual, verbal, physical - in today's media gives me pause. Does that mean I'm pushing for censoring laws? Hell to the no. I'm part of that culture too. I watch NCIS, I cheer when they give the smackdown on the bad guy, I'm happy in Law and Order when someone gets told, etc, etc. I read books where the main character dies, is put through hell, suffers and doles out violence. But yeah, when I take a step back, look at media as a whole, look at how much there is, how popular rape fiction, for example is (something I don't find appealing myself, but I'm not the censor police, it's not like I want it all SHUT DOWN AND SCRUBBED OFF DA INTERWEBS) and when I really look at it all on a macro level, well then yeah, I get worried. "is this healthy for society? What kind of ramifications, if any, does this have on real life?" I ask myself these questions. And yeah, some of the answers I find concern me. But does that mean I think "rape fiction makes men rape women and it excuses men from being rapists" (like I've been accused of before)? Absolutely. Not.

[crystalzelda.livejournal.com]

And I don't specifically know who you are, but I had a similar conversation about this a while back with someone else who's trolled me a couple of times since about this subject. I'm simply wondering if it's you.