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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-05-11 08:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1225 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1225 ⌋

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[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
This does not bother me. At all.

The movie is NOT the animated series. And they have already decided to do a different take on it. Therefore, it is perfectly logical for the actor to avoid confusion by avoiding the series.

Re: 142

(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
The movie being a much darker and less silly version makes me want to give it a chance. Because I really do think the series was at times way too trivializing of its subject matter.

Apparently, that's a thought crime. Or something. IDFK.

Re: 142

[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to see it because I love Avatar, and even if the movie sucks, hey, WE GOT A MOVIE. One in THEATERS.

It's kinda like how I love Heath Ledger, and therefor own Monster's Ball even though I thought the movie was horrible and will probably never watch it again.

Re: 142

(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I'm still not going to buy a ticket because I don't want to monetarily support the casting decisions. But I may still download it out of curiosity if it's going to take itself more seriously.

I'm just tired of being treated like some kind of blasphemer because I expect a show about war, of all things, to treat the subject with a lot more maturity than Avatar ever tried to.

Re: 142

[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I intend to see it because, though the casting may suck, whether I see it or not will not make the casting go away. I also refuse to fight racism with theivery.

Re: 142

(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's the lesser of two evils for me. An already filthy rich Hollywood director losing a couple of lattes' worth on my potential ticket is not quite as bad to me as a tacit endorsement of his casting practices ("I approve and I want to see more whitewashing, and I'm saying so with my wallet"). If there was a way I could legally see the film without paying (like winning free tickets or something), I would.

Re: 142

[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't hate my family enough to risk the massive amounts of debt they would be in if I got caught pirating movies.

And it's not about the director at all. It's simple: Stealing is wrong, and, unlike the crappy casting, there's actually something I can do about it this time.

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 12:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, if you're worried about getting caught, you're using the wrong viewing channels for one thing. And while stealing is wrong (I did say "two evils"), in this case I don't think it's as wrong as directly supporting and approving of a blatantly racist venture. One is only "hurting" the director's bottom line. The other is contributing to a widespread problem that hurts lots and lots of people every day.

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[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't matter. You don't fight evil with evil. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-14 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if that's such a bad thing. Maybe if the whole world was blind, we'd have less racism in it.

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[identity profile] lililedger.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a good point that has almost nothing to do with the metaphor and current line of discussion.

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[identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that your disapproval is just as tacit unless you're letting people (actual important film people, not random internet folk) know you're a lost customer because of the race!fail, right?

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Considering how evident it is that Shyamalan knows about the widespread disapproval but doesn't seem to care a whit, I'm pretty sure the e-mail I sent is going straight to the round file anyway.

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[identity profile] siriuslynow.livejournal.com 2010-05-12 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I felt the series handled a lot of dark issues with surprising maturing, especially considering it was a children's television show.

I mean, I really don't wanna sound accusatory (everyone's allowed an opinion after all) but what aspects did you find were trivializing?

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
For one, it was a show about war in which there was very little actual killing going on. Characters were taken prisoner in situations where it made more sense to just execute them (Suki, for instance; there was really no good reason for the army to waste resources to keep her alive after interrogating her). And for as much talk as there was of burning Ba Sing Se to the ground in the beginning, when the city is finally toppled, we see the army spending those valuable resources to occupy it instead, and without a reason (really, a city that, according to the map, is half the size of their own country). Death only seemed to occur when it was a convenient plot point, and even then the characters who died are only mourned if they were 100% good guys (Jet? Once he was coldly murdered right in front of them, everyone largely forgot he existed).

Also, the way way way oversimplified aspects of Asian culture that the series took its influence from. Instead of being explored as the complex philosophy it is, it was divided into very simple "This Good, That Bad." To be honest, the whitewashing in the movie seems almost fitting, considering how Asian culture itself got whitewashed throughout the series.

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-12 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Amen.