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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-05-28 05:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #1242 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1242 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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["Imagine Me and You"]


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160. [TRIGGER WARNING for shota]
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162. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse, chan, incest, dubcon]









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(Anonymous) 2010-05-29 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
About as realistic as non-surgical fellows performing brain and/or in utero surgery (Jacks of all surgeries, really), a departmental head and the dean of medicine having empty plates whenever House needs them, and a pill-popping, rule-breaking, nine-lives-having diagnostician getting and remaining employed despite ethical and legal no-nos time and time again. As realistic as the guy missing a significant chunk of leg muscle being able to run eight miles to that (miraculously maintained) job.

Which is to say, the show is called House, and the show's universe and its characters revolve around him.

It's a television drama. I love Chase, but I'm not sure the hour would be nearly as compelling if we left House running a differential only to jump to Chase and Cuddy swapping stories of bad haircuts, while the patient slowly dies of alcoholism while trapped in the rubble (bonus: she's an evil dictator).

No thanks, I'll take the circumstances that might require greater suspension of disbelief, but yield a more interesting examination of the titular character for whom I watch the show.

[identity profile] periariyx.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
There have been stretches in realism in the show before, definitely, but they weren't quite as painfully blatant, Bigger Is Better as the finale was. House is a medical mystery show inspired by Sherlock Holmes, not freaking ER (for which a disaster episode makes perfect sense) or Grey's Anatomy (where all of the soap opera elements fit in). I have nothing against the occasional format bender but this was just beyond absurd.

Which is to say, the show is called House, and the show's universe and its characters revolve around him.

Really? I wouldn't have been able to tell considering the lack of actual House there's been lately, what with how the writers seem to think everyone is invested in Taub's possible infidelity, Wilson's getting back together with a woman without a personality, Thirteen's general existence, Cuddy's non-House love life, etc etc. Supporting characters are just that, supporting, so I don't really get why they're getting all of these massive story arcs that House occasionally pops in to say something witty about.

If they wanted to go for something big, it couldn't have been that hard for a group of professional writers to have figured out something that would have made sense considering House's physical limitations and still be just as supposedly moving, would it?

It's a television drama that was capable of stretching the limits of reality whilst remaining largely believable through solid writing, actually compelling medical mysteries, a clear Holmes influence and with the actual character of House being president and not the whiny bitch he's now become (that is only saved through the grace that is Hugh Laurie's quite frankly absurd acting abilities). I mean, sure, that episode would've sucked too, but at least it probably wouldn't have been taking itself so seriously.

... You might have to point out where this interesting examination of the titular character has been to me, because I seem to have missed it amongst the hamfisted angst scenes and the out-of-nowhere appearance of Huddy being officially canonized despite lack of previous evidence indicating such. It's cool, though. You take Help Me, and I'll take Son of a Coma Guy, and then we'll both be happy.

[identity profile] chrissyann.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
ITA so much, I will take Son of Coma Guy and raise you Lines In the Sand over any episode season 5 or 6 produced.

(Anonymous) 2010-05-29 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you that this season was sorely lacking in the House department. Quite honestly, I thought the writing, in general, was fine this season, but the season overall was weak for me. It could be the manner in which the season was mapped out, could be the numerous (and long) breaks between episodes, could be something else entirely. This was a season in which there was plenty of drama to mine, and very little of it was pursued. Even the finale, I thought, had much less build up to it than previous seasons.

You don't have to give me any episodes, quite frankly, as I've enjoyed them all, some more so than others (although I probably wouldn't put up much of a fight for "Whatever It Takes"). I think it's interesting that you cite "Son of a Coma Guy" as an example, as that too required a considerable effort in buying into the notion that House awakens a patient from a coma stretching across several years and then they all go on a road trip together, because, of course, there wouldn't be any obstacles such as atrophied muscles to hurdle. Regardless, it was a fantastic episode (I hope liking "Help Me" doesn't preclude me also liking "Son of a Coma Guy") and the payoff justified the unreality of it. The payoff in "Help Me" might not have been beneficial enough for you, and that's fine; personally, I think this show has been offering hefty doses of absurdity far longer than the last couple of seasons.

I'm baffled by the argument that "Huddy," in general, is this out-of-nowhere thing that the writers decided to throw at us. Some may not see it, may not want to, but I don't think people who ship it (and have since day one) are deluded into thinking it's always been there (albeit in varying degrees). I'd be just as baffled if House/Wilson became canon and everyone acted as if that came out of nowhere -- you might not see it, but there's certainly been plenty of subtext and beyond to lay a foundation for that relationship if the writers ever choose to go there.

[identity profile] periariyx.livejournal.com 2010-05-29 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, that's exactly why I chose Son of a Coma Guy: an episode based on a rather silly premise of waking a guy up from a coma through the use of some random drug I totally don't get. And yet, that didn't dominate the episode for me. It wasn't thrust in my face in the same way that House wandering around a disaster scene, doing nothing and being useless, was. Furthermore it gave us actual introspect into House and his psyche, and without using the obvious "fellow patient might have to get their leg cut off" route. (I do apologize for my snarkiness earlier on; of course you can love both episodes!)

I didn't think any payoff in Help Me could possibly have been worth the derivative nature the show suddenly took. At the absolute least, the absurdity in Son of a Coma Guy is medically related and something House could reasonably have a part in, being a doctor (the guy being fully functional physically was definitely a stretch, but at least he wasn't crawling through holes, and you get some pseudo-bullshit explanation with the drug. Help Me didn't even attempt to explain how House could crawl underground so frequently, he just did it), instead of, well... The plot of Help Me could just as easily not be in a medical show. The doctors could have just as easily been backdrops like the firefighters and such were, and instead of House it could have been the girl's husband. Son of a Coma Guy still revolved around an actual diagnosis, was still a medical mystery, and both parts of the episode came together nicely and powerfully in the end. So regardless of payoff - Help Me doesn't even fit into the type of show that House is, it just happens to have a few characters in common. I could even take another flashy finale, House's Head/Wilson's Heart, and yet it remained about a medical mystery, a diagnosis, and featured the characters of House in abundance in a situation that could, without in-your-face stretching, happen.

As for the sudden out-of-nowhereness of Huddy... Mostly, I'm bugged by the severe and abhorrent retconning in a juvenile attempt to turn House and Cuddy into ~star-crossed lovers~. I don't mean that Huddy never existed. The show started off with three biggies involving Cuddy, Cameron, and Wilson, so Huddy has always been a part of the show. They closed off the Cameron part decently enough with Chase, House and Wilson have been having big gay adventures all season (including the literal gay-off which was, admittedly, an awesome episode), but... no, now it's all Cuddy and only Cuddy. The writers actually went back and changed the show. Like that 80's dance episode where the two of them confessed their love for each other that had been going on for like 20 years or something... what? That doesn't explain how in Three Stories, they don't even seem to know each other. And I get that things change after your first season, and you have to take its canon with a grain of salt, but that's way beyond the pilot episode, not to mention it's one of the most pivotal episodes in the show's canon since it explains House's limp. Fucking with a realistic, previously well-established canon for the sake of making Huddy !!fate!! is just a big no in my books, and I say this with absolutely no hate towards Huddy (I'm a non-shipper so if House had ended up with Cameron or Wilson I really wouldn't have cared either, but at this point I see far more to House/Wilson than I do with House/Cuddy). I say it out of hate of taking two previously well-established characters with a slightly murky but clear enough backstory, and smashing them together without care or consideration for what's been earlier established. It shows a lack of both care and planning, and it's just plain, well, bad.

... Loooong post.