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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-08 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1253 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1253 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 347 secrets from Secret Submission Post #179.
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[identity profile] hector-rashbaum.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're the same way about f/m friendships, don't see them as potentially romantic unless hit over the head with a sledgehammer of THEY LOVE EACH OTHER, then no, it's probably not a result of subtle, ingrained homophobic attitudes.

But if you're not, if it's only f/f and m/m friendships you can't/won't believe cross the line into romantic relationships , it might be worth examining why. Generally, when people react negatively to "I need to be explicitly told guys are gay before I assume they're gay for each other, but don't need to be explicitly told a man and woman are heterosexual before I assume they might date", they're not trying to say "you are a bad and horrible and evil homophobic ass", they're reacting to the incredibly strong tendency to erase LGBT people by assuming they must act a certain way, must be "obviously" LGBT, and the unwillingness to examine where that tendency comes from and why it's problematic because "that's just how it is".

[identity profile] immortality.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[personal profile] rdc9 2010-06-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for saying this.

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly, thank you.

[identity profile] kiraya.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yes yes yes this.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well said.

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Eleventh'd! Or however many.
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[personal profile] althea 2010-06-09 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Very well expressed!

+1

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
dats so true gurl

[identity profile] ketita.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You basically just described me XD fandom taught me to see subtext, but I just don't normally think that way. Not with m/m, not with m/f, not with f/f. Yep, it takes a sledgehammer.

...then again, I'm not much better IRL. "what do you mean a crush on me? He was just being friendly."

/cool story