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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-08 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1253 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1253 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 347 secrets from Secret Submission Post #179.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

I... uh... think people are missing the point here...

[identity profile] rabbitucker.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
...or at least not considering the bigger picture.

Most of the respondents in this thread are suddenly getting really defensive. "There's no WAY fandom could be worth giving up!!"

Let's consider, though...

[1] This person is in therapy. This doen't mean that they're batshit insane or anything. I've benefited from counseling, and it's definitely wortwhile if you've got issues. However, to fully benefit from your sessions, you have to be willing to probe all the dark corners of your psyche, and if scanning for maladaptive behavior and dysfunctional thinking constantly turns up bits of fandom participation, than maybe this dude/chick does need to take a step back. What's more, it is not our place to interpose ourselves into the working relationship between therapist and patient and undermine the necessary foundation of trust that is needed to make a therapy campaign work.

[2] The shrink and the Original Poster know more than we do. We don't know that this individual's issues are. We are not privy to the inside of their brains, nor can we eavesdrop on the therapy session. O.P. is baring their soul to the therapist and not to us, and since a head-shrinker needs to have years of training and a lisence (which most of us, myself included, lack) to wade through all those deep, dark confessions. Hence, we lack the both the insight into his/her problems and the training to do anything with it. I think it would be very, very, VERY irresponsible for people on this comm to patently dismiss the counselor's advice and say, "Screw your shrink and stay in fandom!"

[3.] I wonder if the commentors are projecting...? If you read too much into this secret, or draw far too many generalizations from it, it's very easy to become PERSONALLY offended. "This person says fandom participation is unhealthy, but *I* participate in fandom, so their therapist is attacking ME!" It's not about you. It's about O.P. and their shrink. This is his/her story, not yours. Their situation is not yours.

Of course, if it strikes such a sensitive nerve within you, maybe that's a sign of something?

Re: I... uh... think people are missing the point here...

[identity profile] soymade.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree. Your last sentences seems pretty passive-aggressive, though.

Re: I... uh... think people are missing the point here...

[identity profile] snapcakes.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
How are they passive-aggressive? S/he made a valid point and elaborated on it. We all know that fandom can be a lifesaver for some and a destructive addiction/hideout for others, and everything in between. It varies from person to person. Terrifies is the key word in that secret, to say nothing of the fact that fandom is a focal point in the OP's sessions in the first place. Fandom is a hobby, not a lifestyle, and if someone reacts to the idea of leaving it behind without taking into account the rest of the secret, evaluating their own feelings about it is a valid suggestion.

Re: I... uh... think people are missing the point here...

[identity profile] snapcakes.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Signed.

Re: I... uh... think people are missing the point here...

[identity profile] vazavati.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:23 am (UTC)(link)

Speaking as someone who definitely benefited from giving up fandom for a while to scale down what was on its way to becoming a pretty bad Internet addiction? AMEN to this. It could be that giving up fandom (to whatever degree) isn't what's going to sort out OP's problems, but it's worth a shot & it's not like it's this completely horrifying & irreversible decision.

OP

(Anonymous) 2010-06-09 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for bringing earth logic back to the thread. I hadn't any particular expectations when I made the secret in terms of the response I'd get, I simply wanted to get it off my chest, but theis general reaction of "screw the seasoned professional and his qualified opinion" didn't even cross my mind!

Also, people are jumping to the conclusion that fandom is the problem. It isn't. I never said it was. It's the SYMPTOM.

Re: OP

[identity profile] angryscientist.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Also, people are jumping to the conclusion that fandom is the problem. It isn't. I never said it was. It's the SYMPTOM.

That's what I told my therapist and family. I'm glad you agree, OP. Keep at it, find the thing causing it.