[ SECRET POST #1271 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1271 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

No mudkips, don't worry.

Secrets Left to Post: 25 pages, 608 secrets from Secret Submission Post #182.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, for real.

Plus, it was way too soon.

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

Here (http://www.ursulakleguin.com/FAQ_Questionnaire5_01.html#FF/) is a link to the policy on her website, which is actually a little more fic-friendly than I remembered, basically amounting to "don't plagiarise, don't make money, and I'm slightly frightened of this new-fangled Interweb thingy". So I'm actually feeling a lot more positive about this whole "Left Hand of Darkness" fandom idea!

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

Can I be one of the voices in your head?

[(Anonymous)]

"wicked_seraph"? What are you, thirteen?

[wicked-seraph.livejournal.com]

provingmypoint.jpg

#169

[jessicadwyer.livejournal.com]

I am Murdock's whore. I've always been, even when Dwight Schultz played him. He was the action figure I bought. Sharlto Copley > Bradly Cooper's abs.

I squee with thee.

Murdock is sex and the reason I've seen the movie three times.

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

There is a certain validity to that line of criticism in that the LEAD characters were never seen in more "feminine" roles. They are politicians, spiritual leaders, the "king," and all referred to using masculine pronouns -- Genly's choice, which he explains very well, in my opinion.

I did read that Le Guin always regretted that she never got to write the lead characters in that book in the parts of their lives that were less traditionally masculine. I recall specifically that she said something about wishing she had had good reason to show Estraven as a mother with Arek (I am unsure why she chose to use that word, since Estraven was the biological FATHER of both of his children with Arek, but I suppose she just meant having a nurturing role in their upbringing). But then there are her two short stories set on Gethen -- in one, the Gethenians are all referred to as SHE, and that story I recall was actually written before the novel. In the other, they revert to the male pronoun for all persons, but it tells the story of an adolescent Karhider experiencing their first kemmer -- as female. "His" first sexual experiences are as a woman, with other women. I particularly like that story. It does very well to show the complete equality with which Karhiders (I don't recall if Orgoreyn sexual practices are discussed at all) regard any conceivable kind of sex, from homosexual couplings to orgies and there is reference made to the free practice of more creative approaches.

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

I am always happy to have more company. ^_^

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

I got the impression she's not dead-set against it, just kind of like... whatever, go, create, be free, just don't try to get my input on it.

Which is good, cuz I've been writing Estraven and his child Sorve for ages. >.>

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

You can ignore or laugh at it, but I find it helps to use confusing words in the same sentence or two just to show the contrast and it helps me keep track of their meaning. For example, to put a sexy spin on yours maybe: "I peeked under the sheet and glimpsed the peak of her breast; my interest was definitely piqued."

[(Anonymous)]

Why are there Radiohead lyrics attached to the picture of whoever that is...? Did you see Radiohead?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, thankfully I read all long fics by transferring them to my ipod. So I have a copy saved.

And I would offer to send people who want it through email, but I doubt any of us would want to de-anon, amirite?



and lol recaptcha: pelt stones

[(Anonymous)]

I hate that livejournal always has wayback machine blocked or something

[magpieinthesky.livejournal.com]

Basically, this is AMAZING. <3

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I always thought that the use of masculine pronouns in that book was a totally valid choice, because we're not just getting a story about a genderless society, we're getting a story about that society as seen through the eyes of someone from a society more like ours. Ai's issues in dealing with the Gethenians are an equally important aspect of the book. It's easier for him to assign male terms to people who are acting in "masculine" roles than for him to examine his own assumptions about gender.

This partly all came up for me because I'm working on a fic-challenge thing, and one of the prompts is "mpreg" which is something I really have no interest in writing. But then I thought "what if you screwed with the timeline (and the biology!) a little, and Estraven got pregnant, and Genly had to figure out how to deal with that?" Haven't written it yet, but I might.

I think I read that second story, a really long time ago. I need to re-read it!

[viherkyn.livejournal.com]

I really, really hope you start feeling better soon. I know it's such an empty phrase and makes no difference when you are down (I used to do the same thing more or less, I would get out of bed just to sit in front of the computer). Just don't give up, things have to get better at some point.

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

It can't be any worse than being a girl named Roxanne.

[ohbrooks.livejournal.com]

Fancy seeing you here.

And if I weren't convinced this were a troll I'd make a comment about how ridiculous this secret is, but yeah. Not worth the effort.

[ohbrooks.livejournal.com]

(Also I would NOT BE HAPPY WITH AN OT5. OT6 mate, don't leave out my fierce armour wearing Morgause)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I'm not even a Whovian, but my sister made me watch the series of Nine, and part of Ten, and I just couldn't get into Ten, but I liked Nine. So ... yeah, I guess my Doctor is Nine. *G*

[cordelia-gray.livejournal.com]

I looked up her policy on her website (link posted upthread) and it is more fic-friendly than I had remembered, so yeah, you're right.

I think maybe I'm going to have to stalk you & read some of this fic now ;)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I think he'd be a good uncle. That's why for me. :-)

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

Paragraph 1: A+, agree. He does the same thing with projecting his ideas about gender onto people in a genderless society by making them more feminine -- i.e., referring to his "landlady," describing a girl who kindasorta tries to get him to boink her on the prisoner transport in Orgoreyn, the way he describes Ashe, who comes off as kind of a flouncy drama queen...


I recall that in part of the book, Genly mentions that some scientists from the Ekumen or something had determined that Earth-type humans and Gethenians would probably be able to reproduce together. There is technically no known reason why they couldn't. The only question would be whether the resulting offspring would have a fixed sex, or be an androgyne with kemmer cycles, or be infertile. My bet would be on the offspring of a Gethenian and Earth-type human being infertile -- an androgyne who does not go into kemmer. I would be curious as to the biological reasons for that, and whether the advanced medicine of Genly's time or even the existing medicine on Gethen would be able to offer a solution, I would assume in the form of hormone treatments. Could a child with one androgyne parent and one fixed-sex parent be born a sexually "normal" person of either type by giving the parent hormone treatments throughout the pregnancy? Or by giving the child hormone treatments throughout childhood or for their entire lives? I WONDER ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF. :O

WRITE IT. I'M TOO LAZY TO BE THE ONLY PERSON WHO WONDERS THIS SHIT.

Re: OP here

[corvigryph.livejournal.com]

There's gonna be a Toy Story short? ROCK ON x3 I don't care for Cars but that short will be worth it :D

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

It's roleplaying, mostly, not so much fic. And it's all sticking the characters in a universe where characters from all kinds of different canons are present being played by other people. I played Therem and Sorve in Milliways for a while, and just picked up Sorve in Under The Rainbow on IJ.