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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-28 05:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1273 ]


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THIS ANON, I LIKE YOU.



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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-06-28 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
126. http://i50.tinypic.com/n12rnm.jpg

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think you are a troll (or Debbie) but I will answer you anyway..

Olympics were not his fault, they were the fault of the fucking French media who all attacked him and the coach for not supporting. Maybe you didn't know but he had a good season this year. Go and watch the skates before you open your mouth and hate.

As for the Worlds the judges are always underscoring him because creepy rape eyes sucks judges dick and Skate canada bought him silver. Watch it and see. If you want to know in detail where he was undersdcore simply look at the judges scores of the jumps and footwork which is Yagudin-level champion-level compared to rapes eyes and the failed quad attempter.

But that Brian will be world champion this year with his new coach, I can guarantee. And he will do quad on the faces of people like you and all his haters and rapists eyes and Jbutt and all the quad haters too.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
He can't move one of his eyes it's not really his fault :(

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
So? He still is overscored and plays the system and is fucking disrespectful to skaters who are better than he ever will be... he deserves it tbh

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
2 WRONGS =/= 1 RIGHT

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, because expressing someones opinion on skating, and because the style in which they skate is different from your personal tastes, a teenager deserves to be essentially called a rapist. Of course he deserves that, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your argument here.

JFC

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
LOL WHAT

OVERREACTION MUCH

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
If YOU put up with criticisms of him and his fans constantly maybe YOU would be similar. Maybe I am tired of people like Buttle stans like AJ and Debbie hating when we know it is all politics the way the skating is judged now. The haters who never stop with one-foot skating and transitions criticisms know it is simply another way for judges to hide the politics which puts bad skaters who cannot even quad to the top of the podium! Just watch the skating for yourself, it is stupid. But whatever it is late, I do not have time for this and those haters will go to a special hell anyway.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. Yagudin's step sequence would be a level one based on CoP standards (not saying it's right) and Joubert's are nowhere near Yagdudin. And it's noone's fault but his own and his team who can't count to 3 and put in a triple jump combination that he doesn't have all the features to get higher levels on his spins.

And PCS does score based on transitions, choreography, and skating skills.

Just because you don't know the rules doesn't mean that it's all politics.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Please, 'bad skaters who cannot even quad'. I adore watching the quad, but it is not all there is in the sport. I love Bjou's skating, his quads in particular, but it is stans like you that give his stans a bad name. Quads aren't everything, and other skaters do better on other aspects, where he perhaps does not do so well.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-30 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If quads aren't everything why does Joubert himself bitch when someone beats him the quad? Because he can't accept that quads aren't everything? Doesn't that suggest that he gives himself a bad name?

[identity profile] jeremiagoeswoah.livejournal.com 2010-06-29 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Suggested title for this anonymous post:
BRIAN JOUBERT: SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Or alternatively: BRIAN JOUBERT, C'EST DU SERIEUX.

[identity profile] tee-sama.livejournal.com 2010-06-29 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
More humble about himself and his ability? He was always humble. One of the nicest people in the skating world. D: I'm not his fangirl, I only really support people from my country, but seriously? He was always "humble".

(Anonymous) 2010-06-29 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Not to get caught up in all the wank happening above, but I almost wonder whether you're joking because I don't agree at all.

While he is indeed a nice guy, he also has a arrogant side and has been very vocal about his own ability (moreso than most other skaters, who are a necessarily arrogant bunch anyway). He has a history of bitching out every skater he's ever lost to and criticizing them, and complaining constantly about how the system doesn't massively favor his strengths over those of his competitors. Like when he complained that JButt won the world title without the quad in 2008 (Brian had gold in 2007 and got silver in 2008), like every time he complains about the base value of the quad not being almost double that of all other jumps, like when he said:

"it was the Canadians who created the (new scoring system) to favor the North Americans for Vancouver. You have to know that their skaters, often homosexuals, specialize in effeminate skating. In a flash, they went from 10th place to the podium."

Yeah. He has also said very nice things about many skaters, and he's not the only one out there making inflammatory comments, but he did have that arrogant side with comments that seemed uncalled for, especially from a seasoned skater. Sometimes it seemed like he would rather insult other skaters, the scoring system, etc. rather than work on the gaps in his own ability. Let's hope that's changed, I guess.

[identity profile] tee-sama.livejournal.com 2010-06-29 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, you may be right, he did say some bad things. But I still stand by my opinion. I think he's one of the nicest skaters and from what interviews I've seen with him I agree about the current scoring system (not the quote you showed though). Skating used to be about show and ability, it's not so balanced now.

Well, my view might be colored by personal experience. I asked him for an autograph and we chatted amicably for few minutes, he was very pleasant.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-01 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I agree with your opinion. He does seem to be one of the nicest skaters out there. I simply acknowledge that he's said some bad things, but in the end that doesn't detract much from my overall impression of him. Nobody's perfect.

It's kind of cool that you met him though... I wish I could meet him... That would be like a dream come true, haha.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-30 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
"it was the Canadians who created the (new scoring system) to favor the North Americans for Vancouver. You have to know that their skaters, often homosexuals, specialize in effeminate skating. In a flash, they went from 10th place to the podium."

Jesus. Do you have a source/link for that quote? Not doubting you at all, but I'd like to pass that along to a few friends who will ask for a source :/ I'd assumed since he and Weir seem to be friends, that he was comfortable with the homosexual effeminate skaters. Sigh.

I definitely remember his bitching about losing to quadless Buttle on '08 at the press conference afterward. *Right* in front of Jeff.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-30 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry about the late reply, I forgot about this thread... He gave an interview to a French newspaper in, iirc, early 2010. It was reported on many other news sites... Here's one with the original French:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffr.canoe.ca%2Fsports%2Fvancouver2010%2Fnouvelles%2Farchives%2F2010%2F02%2F20100218-141805.html&sl=fr&tl=en

And this news site has the English translation I quoted:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EdBNbLw41KwJ:www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Ignorance%2520without%2520borders/2589137/story.html%3Fid%3D2589137+brian+joubert&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

This situation reminds me of when he sued his girlfriend for telling a magazine he was gay: people say he did it for his career, but I think some people find it more acceptable because of the distance. I don't think we'd nod and smile if Lysacek sued Belbin or Liukin or even Weir (who may have implied it once) for saying he was gay...

Nevertheless, a part of me likes to believe that Joubert said those things because of the decline in his own career, lashing out with cheap homophobic slurs. The fact that every skater who beat him at Worlds 08 and 09 was Canadian or American comes to mind... :/ It doesn't excuse the homophobia, but his apparent friendship with Weir does suggest he isn't actually a bad guy. That's what I'd like to think, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-01 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
And this is the original French newspaper that interviewed him, I think

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.lejdd.fr/Sport/Sports-d-hiver/Actualite/Joubert-les-chichis-et-les-chochottes-172184/&sl=fr&tl=en