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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-07-15 04:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #1290 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1290 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Re: Yes, this rant again. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-15 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I included Bill and Cedric because I consider them more Stuish than Harry or Sirius, because they don't have flaws that are ever actually revealed to us. But at the same time they don't bother me, even still, since Bill is a totally minor character who only really appears randomly to be fawned over by Fleur or looked up to by Ron and Ginny, so I think that's his function - to be admired and be an example to the others. But he's not a central character and thus it doesn't really irritate me, and he served as character development for Fleur since she showed genuine love for him not based in shallow things, and was able to fix her relationship with Molly through that. Cedric was pretty much perfect, but he's the sacrificial lamb - the death isn't as horrific if the person who dies isn't one of the 'pure, sweet, beautiful' etc. And neither of them are prominent enough to bug people, yeah, lol. But the mate of the lead character deserved to have a little more attention, because even if she isn't there as OFTEN as some of the others, she is an emotional stake for Harry and we need to know why he loves her, not just that he does.

Re: Yes, this rant again. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-15 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I talked about this in my replies below, but I think that's the thing: I don't think Bill or Cedric or Stus, because they're not author self inserts. They're just what is often called flat characters, or two-dimensional characters. Something these kinds of characters have all bad traits, sometimes all good, and sometimes all neutral, depending on their role in the plot. They are only important in terms of their (usually limited) role on the plot and their function regarding the main character(s).

Ginny's one, too, and she's only important because she's Harry's girlfriend, so all we know about her is that she's ever-so-cute.

I don't think flat characters are always bad writing (they show up in most stories somewhere) as not every character can or should be well rounded, but they can be bad writing, if they show up to often or in the wrong place.

Re: Yes, this rant again. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2010-07-15 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoa, typo city. Sorry.