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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-04 04:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1340 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1340 ⌋

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Notes:

Unfortunately a panfandom kink meme would be impossible to keep organized, since there are so many possible fandoms to choose from. But since lots of people seem to want some kind of meme: FS anon meme tomorrow?



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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
142. http://i37.tinypic.com/2mr6vjm.jpg

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, what do you mean, damage his career even more? More than what, more than being gay?
Also, what do you mean, "fans", dear high-and-mighty "non-fanatic"?

They don't mean that he can't act; they usually project their image of the actor over the one of the character he plays, it often happens and it's not meant like you take it. Honestly, there's nothing to get so riled about, anon.
Relax; his fans love him and are perfectly aware that he can act.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
MTE. Well said, anon.

[identity profile] staticmatrix.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
idgi. how are his fans so important that they'd actually harm his career? i mean, i doubt he gets work based on the opinions of his fandom but rather people who actually work in the industry.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Fantastic point; I second that.

[identity profile] marisahsaaaa.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. IDG this secret.

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So true. In the end this is one of those secrets that thinks fandom matters a lot more than it does.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds to me like it's not so much about his fans harming his career as it is that certain people just want others to stop talking about him being gay. The "concern" over his career is just a mask for their discomfort with his sexual orientation.

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[identity profile] maskitheclown.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
No, the casting director checks my LJ first.

[identity profile] ink3.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never, ever seen a fan say that he "can't act". If anything, his fans champion him even when he's in a smaller role (he's a scene stealer :D )

And what exactly is so wrong with playing a "gay best friend on a sitcom"?? Is it damaging his career to play a homosexual character? I mean, Sasan wasn't a LEAD ROLE in a major film with big name actors and a huge budget, but it was one of his first roles. Look at all of the first roles of A-list actors, they generally did the same thing: started small on sitcoms and daytime television.

IDK, your phrasing in this secret is a hot mess, anon, and somewhere in there you're making a "gay = bad for career"
statement that is (hugely) offensive. So why don't you forget about the so-called "damage" (LOL as if his fans have anything to do with his career and the roles he plays) us fans apparently inflict and worry instead about the disparaging thoughts you harbor for someone who's sexuality isn't crystal clear.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What's the name of the sitcom he was in?

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-05 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure OP meant that fans saying things like "he looks like he's afraid of vaginas" are by extension saying he can't act (because he can't convince them he/the character is straight).

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a homophobe.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
3 or 4 months ago there was an article in Salon.com that basically said out gay actors shouldn't play straight characters because the audience would be thinking about their homosexuality when they were shown in love scenes or something.* And how many gay actors are actually given roles as straight characters?

It's an unfortunate fact that out gay actors face a lot of prejudice in the roles they're given and the critical acclaim (or lack thereof) that they receive.

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[identity profile] futurama-stan.livejournal.com 2010-09-04 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Harm his career even more?

Why is everyone obsessing about his career, he's doing fine.

In the world we live in, a person's sexuality is important. People also like rumors and want to know who everyone's sleeping with. In ZQ's case, it's pretty much a mystery which makes it even more intriguing.

So naturally, the gay rumors are permanently stuck in people's minds and they keep bringing it up. It's exciting. They mean no harm and speak in jest. Do they sometimes cross the line? Well, yeah (although others already pointed out the same thing you did - without feeling the need to go anonymous I might add - so most of the people already know better and are more careful about what they say).

I don't think anyone is seriously doubting his abilities as an actor.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-05 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone is seriously doubting his abilities as an actor.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
you again?

ONTD =/= Hollywood, OP

(Anonymous) 2010-09-04 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
JSYK.
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[personal profile] thene 2010-09-05 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Playing straight characters is and always has been what gay actors spend most of their career doing, often off-set as well as on. The idea that they've suddenly lost the knack now it's become almost acceptable to be gay in Hollywood is absurd.

[identity profile] supermattachine.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
lol hi Ramin Setoodeh, it's been a while.

[identity profile] arcadiaego.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
The 'lol, as if any character he plays could be believable even standing near a woman!' stuff is annoying and I share the puzzlement over why people like him if they think he's such a poor actor. But I have no interest in subscribing to the idea that we should all just pretend everyone is straight to protect their careers.

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[identity profile] sagittipotens.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure Hollywood has nothing against homosexuality

(Anonymous) 2010-09-05 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Don't kid yourself, most gays and lesbians in the industry are still in the closet and it's not because they like the view from in there.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-05 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, give it the fuck up, [livejournal.com profile] breakattiffanys

[identity profile] vickyblueeyez.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've seen, coming out can sadly make or break ones career. I forgot what actor it was (I think the guy who played Gandoff) but they were afraid to cast him in anything. Didn't Rosey Odonnel lose her show because of it? Or was it Ellen?

Hollywood is homophobic. Hell, most of America is homophobic. Granted I don't think the fans opinions have anything to do with his career, unless they boycott seeing any of his work due to his sexuality. As in "Oh he's gay and playing someone straight. Not believable. Next." If you're like that, you're not really a fan in my view.