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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-15 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #1351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1351 ⌋

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Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

(Anonymous) 2010-09-15 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
In contrast, transsexuals believe that they should be or are truly the opposite sex.

Some trans people would disagree, insisting they don't 'want' or 'choose' to be the opposite sex. They have always been their 'preferred' sex; it was doctors parents and community who assigned them the wrong sex at birth and coercively enforced gender expectations upon that.

Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

[identity profile] ladycallie.livejournal.com 2010-09-15 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Forgive me, I found the bulk of my comment via googling (because I was lazy). But, yes, you are correct.

Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

(Anonymous) 2010-09-15 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
are you referring to intersexuals? because I'm fairly sure they aren't considered technically "trans," even if they have GID.

if you're not, then what are you referring to, out of curiosity?

Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

[identity profile] rare-lj.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
not the anon, but I believe zie means trans women are women, trans men are men and it doesn't matter what society thinks

Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

(Anonymous) 2010-09-16 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
that would make sense if anon said doctors, parents, etc forced gender upon them at birth, not sex. I mean, unless there's another group of people who get cut up as infants.

Re: Rocky Horror confuses so many idiots *SIGH*

(Anonymous) 2010-09-16 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
I fail to see how the text you quoted contradicts what you said. The words "want" and "choose" are completely absent. In fact, I think that the thought you are trying to express is exactly expressed within the quote with "they should be or are truly the opposite sex," specifically the "or are truly the opposite sex" part. Perhaps you are protesting the word "believe?" I "believe" there is no god, that is a universal true fact to me. I'd still use the word "believe" because I am aware it's a point of view that others dispute, no matter how wrong they are about it. Perhaps you are disputing the word "desired" used later in the post? Why didn't you quote that part then? Technically, with your choice to include doctors as enforcers, and your use of the word "sex" instead of "gender" it sounds more like you're talking about intersex individuals, who can actually have a disputable physical sex. Most transexuals don't dispute the basic fact that they were born physically of the opposite sex than their gender identification. A transwomen isn't about to say "I wasn't born with a penis, doctors just forced that penis on me" unless they're actually intersex, and there's a lot on transexuals who aren't intersex.