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fandomsecrets2010-09-17 04:57 pm
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)and even if you were a special case, your experience hardly speaks for all women.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)Because while they're all seemingly wonderful gestures that the majority of women aren't going to argue having performed (I don't), they're still inherently sexist. At work, I can't go five feet with a big, awkward box without some guy asking me to let him help, or a superior of mine barking at one of the men to, "Get that for her...!" even after I tell them that I'm perfectly capable and carry on my merry way. My male coworker could be carrying the same box five minutes later, and no one even blinks or offers to help him.
It's just not always about being looked over for a job or catcalls on the street. It's the idea that women shouldn't (or shouldn't have to) do certain things while men should.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)It's like, "dude, I can do these things by myself. Don't make me feel like I'm incapable"
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)I always love to believe it's just people being polite (which is my intention), and it's only when I get men saying things like, "Oh, don't let her do that..." or "Get that for her..." that I realize that it's more than just being polite--and it's not always a conscious "ME MAN, YOU WOMAN" thing, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-18 08:39 am (UTC)(link)...or are you a different anon?
Anyway, "chivalry" is bullshit. Generally leads to the dude thinking the women's not capable of doing other things for herself, like making basic personal decisions. Or to him being an asshole to every other woman besides "his girl". See how often that happens at concerts, when guys shove people around because they are "protecting" their gfs.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)I think people missed the boat on chivalry and "feminism". Don't stop doing nice things for people, just do them regardless of gender.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)Even when I can obviously carry boxes into my apartment, I get men offering to help me in a way they wouldn't offer a guy because I'm a girl and therefore ~weak.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)When I'm carrying a box across the room and four guys ask me if I need help, yet they don't ask the guy walking right behind me if he needs help, then it goes beyond being polite.
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(Anonymous) 2010-09-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)I usually ask the man to do it, cause I am lazy. IDK maybe I am the sexist one.
in b4 'omgz u cun't be 4real women blah blah blah blah more shit i won't read blah blah'
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- joined wrestling team in high school. forty guys, six girls. constant jokes.
- random guys offering to carry boxes, luggage, etc for me despite being more than capable myself
- being told by my cousins that I'm childish for not liking the color pink or other "girly" colors.
- being told to wear makeup, cross legs, be ladylike
The list goes on and on.