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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-19 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1355 ⌋

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thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (lost in translation)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-19 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Acupuncture is cheaper? Where I'm from, real medicine is free. Pseudoscientific treatments being 'cheaper' than real ones is caused by horribly broken politics - it isn't an absolute.

It's not culturally insensitive to want your medical treatments to come peer-reviewed and scientifically grounded. Scientific medicine is not universal or perfect but it's the most rigorous approach we've got; acupuncture, on the other hand, performs poorly against placebo versions of itself.

FYI almost all peptic ulcers are caused by bacteria, so if you really have one then the most reliable way to fight it is by fighting that bacteria. Given that someone has won a Nobel Prize for proving this by swallowing a sample of the bacteria in order to give himself a peptic ulcer, I am amazed how many intelligent people seem not to know this.

[identity profile] coyote-feathers.livejournal.com 2010-09-19 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Skeptic buddies! :D Go go peer-review!

Also hurray for universal healthcare. I hadn't thought of bringing that up, probably because I'm in Canada. It just doesn't cross my mind.
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (lost in translation)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-19 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
imo the lack of universal healthcare in the USA contributes to its booming industries of pseudoscientific medicine and faith healing. Obviously other places have these things too but I think people are more likely to turn to fairly inexpensive ways of expressing faux-control over an illness if they don't have reliable, free access to medical care. It occurs to me that the same may be true of money-grubbing megachurches in general. :/

[identity profile] coyote-feathers.livejournal.com 2010-09-19 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed once again 100%. I think it definitely has more to do with desperation than real faith in the practice. "Something" is better than "nothing", even if that something is nothing.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Where you are from. Just saying.

In my country real medicine is a luxury, so... yeah D:
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (Default)

[personal profile] thene 2010-09-20 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
The UK, but yeah, I hear you - the fact that medicine can bankrupt people in some places but not others is the result of local politics and so 'but acupuncture is cheaper!' is by no means an absolute. If acupuncture is cheaper it's because someone has chosen for it to be cheaper.