[ SECRET POST #1355 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[piratesswoop.livejournal.com]

LOL NO.

It was a ridiculous cop-out from the writers because they'd written themselves into a wall and couldn't figure out a way to explain the mysteries they spent so much time hyping up. It wasn't about the science? Bullshit. Why did that play such a major role in the story then? Why was there so much emphasis on time travel, on the pregnancy storylines, on the mysteries, on motivations and outside influences on the island? Yes, the characters were important, but I would've much rather had a solid, well-written ending that tied in with all of the mysteries and plots from the first season onward than some shitty story about plugging and unplugging some giant rock in a golden glowy pool so that everyone could live happily ever after in pretty island purgatory, something that the writers obviously came up with in the very last season because they never had answers to the mysteries the show created.

I cried during the finale because it was emotional and sad and it was the last episode of my favourite TV series, but to say that it had a complex story while acting like it was never about science or the mindfucks is just stupid. If 90% of your story-telling devices are scientific mindfucks, you can't just go LOL JK IT WAS ONLY ABOUT THE CHARACTER ALL ALONG!! because that just makes people feel like they wasted six years of their lives trying to solve mysteries and read clues for something that clearly the writers never had answers for themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

See but that's just the thing. There wasn't so much emphasis on time travel or the pregnancy storylines or the mysteries. A lot of it was very hyped, yes. But 90% of the story telling devices were the characters and their lives on and off the island. The other 10% was the science and the fantasy. Really, compare the time given to the character's flashbacks and flashforwards with the time given to science and you'll see the big difference.
And you're only proving the OP's point by saying that those people confusing the two feel like they wasted six years of their lives basically watching the wrong show. Because they did.

And it isn't the writer's fault that people got the wrong impression, those were your own expectations and people should be more aware of that and of how to separate the two.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, there was emphasis on it. The stories within episodes focused on character development, but the island mysteries drove the story. We'd get an episode that revealed stuff about Sun and Jin's backstory--which led to the question of why they were on the island. Sayid struggled with being an assassin and torturer...and what did that mean for what was going on on the island?

You don't need black smoke monsters, teleporting polar bears, time travel, ghosts, immortal beings, mystical numbers, curses, Egyptian temples, fertility issues, baby snatches, invisible island masters and not one but several groups of mysterious people to set up any character development, much less the not so complex stuff that was going on with these characters. Otherwise just stick them on a mystical island with a couple of visions, not all this junk that was unanswered (unlike the character stuff which was pretty straightforward and didn't need any of this stuff).

It is entirely the writer's fault that people got the wrong impression. But it wasn't the wrong impression. Sometimes shows really are about the plot elements and not character development.

[(Anonymous)]

It was the wrong impression because some stories are amazing because of how they are told and not just because of what the story really tells. Lost is one of those.

Also, the question of why they were on the island was answered. So fucking plainly that it makes for a really ridiculous point for people to still be asking it.

[(Anonymous)]

And Lost was a story that knew it had to cover up the story it was really telling with stuff that looked a lot more original and interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

Because a bunch of dumbasses won't be satisfied with a story about people. Since people are not cool, original or interesting for them.

The same people that think scifi is about the science and fantasy is about the magic. God forbid the stories in them are about people or humanity or characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Those same dumbasses probably watch plenty of shows about people. Only those shows didn't spend years accepting credit for their interesting fantasy plots that got more and more bizarre while characters were bumped off for shock value and contract disputes.

If they'd tied the two together better, fewer people would have been disappointed.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, there was emphasis on it. The stories within episodes focused on character development, but the island mysteries drove the story. We'd get an episode that revealed stuff about Sun and Jin's backstory--which led to the question of why they were on the island. Sayid struggled with being an assassin and torturer...and what did that mean for what was going on on the island?

You don't need black smoke monsters, teleporting polar bears, time travel, ghosts, immortal beings, mystical numbers, curses, Egyptian temples, fertility issues, baby snatches, invisible island masters, lighthouses, caves, lists and not one but several groups of mysterious people to set up any character development, much less the not so complex stuff that was going on with these characters. Otherwise just stick them on a mystical island with a couple of visions, not all this junk that was unanswered--unlike the character stuff which was pretty straightforward and didn't need any of this stuff.

It is entirely the writer's fault that people got the wrong impression. But it wasn't the wrong impression. Sometimes shows really are about the plot elements and not character development.