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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-19 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-20 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
She really isn't! It isn't even clear if anyone knows what happened! And then in S7, her relationship with Tara is idealized to that point that's it's unclear whether or not I'm intended to hate Willow forever. SHE HAS SO MUCH PAIN BECAUSE SHE KILLED THE GUY WHO KILLED THE WOMAN THAT SHE CARED ABOUT BUT DID NOT CARE ABOUT ENOUGH TO STOP RAPING. BUT IT WAS OKAY, BECAUSE SHE WAS ~ADDICTED~. So the thing is - I dunno if I really consider it that OOC for Tara to've gone back to Willow; she's badass but it's made repeatedly clear that she doesn't really have friends/family outside of the Scoobies, but taken in conjunction with Buffy's forgiving Spike in S7 (because he has a sooooul now), it makes a really uncomfortable pattern for me. Maybe I am being super sensitive? The circumstances weren't really the same but it still makes me really unhappy! BtVS was like, the show of my childhood, but I hate so many of the things it chose to be.

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-09-20 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think Tara forgiving Willow makes sense and is in keeping with her character. It just says something really unpleasant about the writing staff that Willow is never made to pay for serial rape, and basically gets canonized as a savior in "Chosen" after she -- wait for it -- violates hundreds of women around the world with a power that has been portrayed all season as stemming from systemic rape.

I don't think you're too sensitive here at all; I love this show but I have many complicated feelings about it.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-20 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, "Chosen" as a whole was just totally ridic though. The whole Slayerhood as a metaphor for empowerment didn't make a whole lot of sense to begin with, made even less sense once the First Slayer thing became a thing, and by the end it was pat in a way that didn't feel aware of its grossness and mixed messages. Not to mention - their plan was to go into the Hellmouth with a handful of barely trained girls and a spell that might not even have worked, and what saved them in the end was not themselves but the amulet from W&H? What a mess.

All that being equal though, it still has the power to reduce me tears. Especially the bit where - and I effing hate Willow by now and I was never all that fond of Xander - that bit near the end with the Scoobies, where they are all *hopeful* and sort of hold hands behind each other's backs, ugh, my heart. HAHA SORRY, YOU ARE TO BE SUBJECTED TO MY RAMBLING AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU.

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-09-20 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE CORRECT HOWEVER AND CLEARLY YOU SHOULD KNOW ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOOD OPINIONS ABOUT MY FANDOM?

(Anonymous) 2010-09-20 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, my journal is temporarily bahleeted, but if someone randomly friends you in the next couple of days/weeks, it is probably me! I need more people to talk about Buffyverse to.

[identity profile] ladycallie.livejournal.com 2010-09-20 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
"I love this show but I have many complicated feelings about it."

Perfect summary of my feelings as well. And it's been what? eight years since the series ended?