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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-10-08 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #1374 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1374 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
106. http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5409/fandumbsecret.jpg

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
As an artist who's had artist friends all her life, both superior and inferior, I say get over it. Sure it sucks being the one with less talent, but it sure sounds like the friendship you found is worth it.

Think of your friend. Is it fair of you to do this? Encourage him/her in their art and ask for advice if you want to improve.

Someone will always be better than you, you might as well get use to the humility.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This this this.

Also adding, you are a shitty friend.

[identity profile] aeonamber.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC.
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[identity profile] kartos.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
god, iawtc so much. B'awww someone is better than me. There's how many people in the world? It's going to happen. You don't have to be the best, but if you want to, WORK ON IT. Seriously, practice practice practice, and shit or get off the pot.

There's some saying I've heard in the past that basically goes like... a true friend is happy when their friend is successful, not jealous. I seriously question the OP's feelings if they act like this.
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[identity profile] kartos.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
PS: Is the art related?

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I counter your saying with "We hate it when our friends become successful", which is probably a lot more realistic
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[identity profile] kartos.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Speak for yourself, I don't get jealous of my friends.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
well that must be very nice for you and your friends. I think the vast majority of people do though, and while it's obviously an undesireable character trait, it's not like the OP is a huge bitch for thinking what most of us think now and then. You are being a bit holier-than-thou.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, they're not being anything. They're just telling the OP what any other sane person would tell someone who's jealous of a close friend: Get over it. Yes, people get bitter at dear friends sometimes, but holding onto that jealousy is a very nice and effective way of damaging a friendship.

So, seriously, OP, if your friend means that much to you, man up. You're not supposed to feel inferior or superior in a friendship; aim to be equal.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I always rationalize it by telling myself that I like being around people who are smart and talented and interesting and if that means I feel insecure sometimes I need to suck it up because it's worth it to have those people in my life.

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
MTE

[identity profile] avocado-love.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So... you're only truly comfortable with being close to people you see as less talented than you are?

That's really messed up, OP. No getting around it.

[identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
So random, but your username/icon makes me happy. I just had three pieces of toast with avocado, and it is my new addiction, for serious. Bizarre, craving avocado instead of chocolate or other junk food, but there you go...

[identity profile] avocado-love.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Haha! Avocados are the best fruit/veggie out there. :D

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Somebody has self-esteem issues. You should talk to someone about that.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a fucked up definition of "friendship" then.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you me, OP? I know how you feel :

[identity profile] inkedfeathers.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww... I hope you can feel more confident soon.

Or, maybe, just talk to your friend without bringing up the subject of art?

Is it really worth a rift in your friendship?

S-somehow, I never noticed that that guy (Jim's father figure) had non-human ears. I am slow.
sammywhatammy: (so much fail i have no words)

[personal profile] sammywhatammy 2010-10-08 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude. Seriously. Agreeing with everyone. I'm trying a pursue a career in art when I know the quality of my work is complete bullshit and all of my friends are tons better than I am, but I don't feel inferior to them in a way that affects our friendship. Sure, I feel inferior in that my art SUCKS, but that's on me to change MYSELF. Don't fuck up your friendship because you can't man up.

[identity profile] silvermedley.livejournal.com 2010-10-08 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand how you feel, OP. But like the others said, that's really not very awesome of you. Because let's face it, when it comes to art there's always gonna be someone better and someone worse. Sure, being close to someone with amazing art might magnify that inferior feeling, but is it really worth pushing away the friendship?

Besides, does it matter so much if you're good or bad compared to them? Isn't what's important is that you enjoy drawing for the sake of drawing? (Or whatever medium it is you work in.)

... of course, if that response isn't acceptable, then I'm also seconding the "PRACTICE PRACTICE ASK FOR CRIT PRACTICE PRACTICE" line.

[identity profile] cykstar.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? I'm an art student as well, there are plenty of people around me who do stuff infinitely times better than what I do. But I don't push them away, I get friendly, I talk. You're not just hurting yourself in this decision, but also your friend. You're making her feel guilty for having any kind of talent, and no one should have negative feelings over something that they're good at.

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, seriously?

I live with awesome people now, both of whom I draw better than, and I love living with 'em.

But art-wise? I desperately miss my old roommates, all three of whom were worlds better than me, not to mention quicker and more creative. I loved living with them, because being around people like that constantly pushed me to excel, to be better than I was. It's easy to slack off and not get much better when you're surrounded by mediocre artists. Even now, quite a few of my online friends are much better artists than me. Not only am I thrilled for their successes, but I appreciate the critique they can give me. Don't get me wrong, I treasure all of my RL friends' cheerful, encouraging comments on my latest pictures, but I need one of my artists friends to take me to task for faking perspective or fudging anatomy.

My point is that's a lousy reason to let a rift grow in your friendship, even from a purely selfish standpoint, to say nothing of just, y'know, being a good friend.

People are going to be better than you. It happens. And all those people who are better than you? There's someone better than them. I'd be crushed if one of my friends cut me off for a reason like that.

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's not worth it. Your art will improve, but once your friendship is gone it'sgone. I can guarantee that you will someday look back on that decision and say "Why did I do something so fucking stupid?"

(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an overdue comment, but the fact is that your reaction may not be nice, but it is human. Lol at everybody saying "I would NEVER be jealous of a friend," because you know it's a goddamn LIE. Fyi, jealousy is the number one cause of failed friendships, and--while I'm not saying it's a good route to go--you wouldn't be alone in that respect.