[ SECRET POST #1374 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1374 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This. I don't understand veganism because it usually results in the animals being more uncomfortable.
If a cow isn't milked (and for some reason, its body continues to produce milk) it can cause great pain. If a sheep isn't shorn, its wool will not only become too heavy for the sheep to carry but it also becomes a home for insects and parasites that can do all types of damage to a sheep. Chickens need to lay eggs every day and if they are not taken, they will pile up and either be eaten by the chickens (which means those chickens will never breed again because they start eating all eggs they see) or become covered in feces and maggots that will also harm the chicken, And so on.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, FFS. You don't understand veganism because you don't know anything about the reasons people go vegan. Go educate yourself and then maybe you would understand why people choose that lifestyle.

[zombie-virus.livejournal.com]

Well, I always assumed that most people turned to veganism because they care about the animals and all that. but like he said, some animal products need to be used or it ends up hurting the animals, so isn't veganism kind of counterproductive, then?

[thene]

Um. Do you know anything about battery farming? Most eggs & chicken flesh products are battery farmed and the idea that it's somehow a favour human beings are doing to chickens out of the goodness of our hearts - because they NEED those eggs to be taken away - is kinda freaking bizarre.

If chickens needed to live in battery farms with poorly-paid human beings to take their eggs away every day, how would they have evolved in the first place? Ditto sheep and wool (though sheep shearing is pretty harmless and I've never met a vegan who avoids wool; this may be a cultural split as I don't know any American vegans, but still; if sheep needed to be intensively farmed in order to exist, we wouldn't have any sheep). As for cows, they don't naturally produce milk except when they have calves to feed; dairy farming is itself an intrusion into the way they'd live otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

Cows don't have to be milked. This is a misconception fed to you by the dairy industry. If they have a calf and the calf is taken away by humans, they have some unrelieved soreness in their udders for a while, yes, but eventually the milk dries up and they are fine; besides, this wouldn't even happen if the baby were left with them or if humans were not forcing them to keep producing the milk long after they should have stopped. You can find many sites regarding this, and not all by vegans. Plus cows who are used for their milk eventually are used for their meat, when they get too old to have babies/produce milk. Therefore, paying into the dairy industry = paying into the meat industry, and obviously vegans don't want to do that. I don't understand why lacto-vegetarians do, but hey...another time for that argument.

Many of the sheep we shear for wool are specially bred by humans to have thick fleeces, so any problems they have are really our fault. Also, when they are sheared, a good bit of the time the shearers and their equipment are extremely careless and painful (gotta make that quick money!), so you arguing about their pain for not being sheared is kind of ironic. Just for example, there's a controversial procedure called mulesing where, without anesthesia, their skin is cut away from them with the wool on it, to prevent flystrike and maggot infestations. Chew on that. Any way you look at it, it's a human's fault. Sheep in the wild don't have those problems and don't need us to help them.

And again, chickens only lay so many eggs because humans manipulate them into doing so. In the wild, this would not happen. It's the result of us domesticating them.

Most vegans are against human intervention/animal domesticity as a whole. The meat and dairy industries thrive on cruel forms of it, so if you can understand that, maybe you won't make this argument anymore.

Educate yourself. I really don't care what you eat, but at least I say respect others, know what your diet contributes to and how the food you eat got to your plate. I'd rather a cow have some sore udders from me not drinking her milk than her have to be separated from her children, forced to be milked daily and live in a closet of a home all her life. Call it the lesser of two evils.



animal cruelty (http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_cruelty/animal_cruelty.htm).

[(Anonymous)]

everything you read on biased internet sites = facts

[(Anonymous)]

ahhh, the smell of defensive sarcasm~ so good.