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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-10-08 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #1374 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1374 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2010-10-09 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Cows don't have to be milked. This is a misconception fed to you by the dairy industry. If they have a calf and the calf is taken away by humans, they have some unrelieved soreness in their udders for a while, yes, but eventually the milk dries up and they are fine; besides, this wouldn't even happen if the baby were left with them or if humans were not forcing them to keep producing the milk long after they should have stopped. You can find many sites regarding this, and not all by vegans. Plus cows who are used for their milk eventually are used for their meat, when they get too old to have babies/produce milk. Therefore, paying into the dairy industry = paying into the meat industry, and obviously vegans don't want to do that. I don't understand why lacto-vegetarians do, but hey...another time for that argument.

Many of the sheep we shear for wool are specially bred by humans to have thick fleeces, so any problems they have are really our fault. Also, when they are sheared, a good bit of the time the shearers and their equipment are extremely careless and painful (gotta make that quick money!), so you arguing about their pain for not being sheared is kind of ironic. Just for example, there's a controversial procedure called mulesing where, without anesthesia, their skin is cut away from them with the wool on it, to prevent flystrike and maggot infestations. Chew on that. Any way you look at it, it's a human's fault. Sheep in the wild don't have those problems and don't need us to help them.

And again, chickens only lay so many eggs because humans manipulate them into doing so. In the wild, this would not happen. It's the result of us domesticating them.

Most vegans are against human intervention/animal domesticity as a whole. The meat and dairy industries thrive on cruel forms of it, so if you can understand that, maybe you won't make this argument anymore.

Educate yourself. I really don't care what you eat, but at least I say respect others, know what your diet contributes to and how the food you eat got to your plate. I'd rather a cow have some sore udders from me not drinking her milk than her have to be separated from her children, forced to be milked daily and live in a closet of a home all her life. Call it the lesser of two evils.



animal cruelty (http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_cruelty/animal_cruelty.htm).

(Anonymous) 2010-10-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
everything you read on biased internet sites = facts

(Anonymous) 2010-10-10 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
ahhh, the smell of defensive sarcasm~ so good.