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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-12-09 04:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1436 ]


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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #205.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
47. http://i.imgur.com/VgImq.png

(Anonymous) 2010-12-09 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
um... because he mentioned the holocaust? and compared Thanksgiving to it? It may not have been the most appropriate comment, but no need to call him ugly over it. /crazed fan

I agree, their twitter feeds have sort of shattered some of my illusions about their greatness and I have accepted the fact that we might not all get along irl like I had imagined, but.... that was kinda harsh, bro

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
the secret also says that he's worthless and should die. and you pick out the part where he's called ugly? well okay then.

[identity profile] dar-actually.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
So, is a dethtoll the unit by which we measure trolling, now?

OP

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
no. if dethtoll was the unit that would make it seem like dethtoll was the troll. what i'm referring to is the people who used to troll dethtoll.

i want to emulate the the way they did it: whenever dethtoll would post something, someone would show up to insult him. i wish i could do the same to frank iero. it would be even funnier if it was a rl version of that. you know, like, jump out of his shopping bags and shout at him. hide in his car and whisper insults when he thinks he's alone.

except i have better things to do. also, that would be stalking and that's cruel.

[identity profile] anindeliblemark.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What? Misogynist? Racist? Antisemitic (because of the tweet posted)? You're going to have to back this up.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-09 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
You're gonna have to stop giving the troll the exact reaction they want :\

[identity profile] maskitheclown.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He said some very unfortunate things about women, mocking included, and used the n word. Those were misogynist and racist things to say. If you look down his twitter, you'll see proof.

It's not trolling, some people are genuinely unhappy about some things that have been going on. Like the fucking "ladyboy" situation.

Some people find it offensive. Even if you don't, others do and it's their right to feel that way.

Forgot to use my Frank icon.
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[identity profile] hector-rashbaum.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL at the response. Yes, guys, that's the only tweet he's ever posted, so it's not possible the OP may have been referring to other tweets in addition to the one pictured.

[identity profile] hello-ilu.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ooookay uh I don't check their twitters much/at all so--- what's this coming from exactly?

GENUINE DESIRE TO BE INFORMED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. GIVE ME YOUR BASIS OF OPINION.

[identity profile] mspotamus.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to point out that holocaust is an actual word that existed before and separately from The Holocaust.

holocaust. n. an act of mass destruction and loss of life (especially in war or by fire); "a nuclear holocaust"

Lots of turkeys die on Thanksgiving. So uh-- that's actually pretty accurate. Cool yer jets.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Also, "gay" means "happy"!

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, right.

the swastika was widely used before hitler co-opted it as the hakenkreuz, so if i see one, as someone who grew up in middle europe i should totally always assume it's a religious symbol that has nothing to do with nazi ideology. sure.

seriously though. i cannot agree with an understanding of the word holocaust that does not take very real, and also rather recent history into account.

besides, afaik frank is a peta supporter. peta had a campaign called "holocaust on your plate" which did very obviously compare the shoa (if you prefer a more specific term) to the killing of animals. so i can't help but put his tweet into that context.

[identity profile] chaviola.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
hol·o·caust (hl-kôst, hl-)
n.
1. Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.
2.
a. Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: "Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe" (Emanuel Litvinoff).
b. A massive slaughter: "an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust" (Rod Nordland).

It's not like he was, you know, actually comparing Thanksgiving to The Holocaust. He was calling a massive slaughter (of tasty birds) a massive slaughter.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
THIS.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
oh, awesome, so we're trivializing Cambodian deaths now. that's much more appropriate.

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[identity profile] wouldbedorothy.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
He was calling a massive slaughter (of tasty birds) a massive slaughter.

Exactly! Thank you.

It's not even like he's the first to use the phrase! No hate for Ana Gasteyer (as "Cinder Calhoun") and Sarah McLachlan singing a Thanksgiving protest song on SNL in the late 90's? ;)

"We gather together for yams, beans, and cranberry sauce.
But have you given much thought lately to the Turkey Holocaust?
Twenty million noble birds slaughtered every fall.
Ain't no difference between Hitler, Stalin -- and the folks at Butterball!
Butterba-a-a-a-ll!!


Lol. I loved that song. Guess that makes me a horrible person.

[identity profile] katyjane91.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
.....Why? Why do people pick on Frank so much. He's a genuinely nice guy. Why not pick on a celebrity that's ACTUALLY awful. Or, ya know, just go have a wank or something instead?

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I like this comment.

OP

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
why? because i care. because i actually like my chemical romance. and frank.

sure i could walk around telling everyone that mel gibson is a horrible person, but, um, everyone already knows that and no one cares.

wanking is overrated.

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[identity profile] holidaylights.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know who that is, but ugh.
Good job missing the point in comments, too, guys! You just rock on with your non-offended selves.

(Anonymous) 2010-12-10 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'll do that.

[identity profile] androwjacksen.livejournal.com 2010-12-10 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh I know. I like AFI but every time Davey opens his mouth and says fuck god/turkey massacre day or some other stupid shit I just cringe.

I mean, I'm atheist too, and I get where he's coming from--people taking religion out of context and using it for their own means and such.

Sometimes things just rub me the wrong way. :V

[identity profile] fire-at-wi11.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
People keep talking about the guys in MCR saying misogynistic things but then when I ask what they never give me any actual examples. I'm not saying this to start shit, I would just like an actual answer for once ...