fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #1436 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1436 ⌋

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It's not the characters enjoying sex. It's the fandom.

In the vast majority of fanfiction, the characters ARE enjoying the sex. Just because the fandom enjoys it too doesn't make it disrespectful or wrong in any way. The OP of this secret is just trying to make people feel bad for enjoying sexual fantasies, and is disgusted that their precious characters are being subjected to the same impure ideas.

In the vast majority of fanfiction, the characters are enjoying the sex only because the fic author made it so. Not because it's IC or something. They are nothing but fodder for sexual fantasies, their true personalities are barely recognizable. In fact they often look like parodies of themselves, the way a nurse in a porn movie looks not quite like a real one.

Who the hell says what sexual proclivities are in or out of character? Unless you have canon evidence that states that a character is NOT into a particular practice, you have NO way of knowing what they like. Honestly. The way people present themselves in their work and social lives has nothing to do with what they enjoy in the bedroom.

At work, I'm the superior to a dozen people; I dress in suits, I have friends, I go to office parties, I'm respectable. At home, I have the largest collection of bizarre sex toys I've ever personally seen and enjoy orgasm denial and spanking.

You cannot say with authority that the character who is a doctor and is charming and friendly at work, does not enjoy any number of bizarre kinks and fetishes when he gets home. Do not force your own personal head canon on other people just because theirs makes you uncomfortable. We're all interpreting here, even you.

I can say with authority, for example, that someone who is a virgin princess in canon and is madly in love with another character (again, in canon) - is definitely not going to have consensual fetish sex with three other guys. Or that an extremely proud and powerful mage who kills people for tiny disrespect in front of his person is not going to sell his body for small change and get off on humiliation.
Not everyone hides their sexual life like you describe. For some people, their sexual life is "in sync" with their behaviour and outside personality. Besides, statistically, most people do not actually have any bizarre kinks outside of fantasies.

So when we take some character and make him possess our kink, whatever that kink is, that's nothing but wishful thinking and should be regarded as such. Otherwise it becomes absurd, same as saying "no one said there is no vampires and cowboys in this Sci-Fi world, thus vampires and cowboys are totally possible and believable here".

Besides, some characters do have sexual lives in canon. In my current canon the erotic scenes are pretty much NC-17 so you can actually see what the character likes with your own eyes.

No, some people are completely open about their sex lives. Some people have vanilla sex and nothing else. My point is NOT that everyone in the world has a kinky sex life, it is that you have NO WAY of knowing who does and does not unless you have a window into their bedroom.

And yes, some characters do have sex lives in canon. Take Queer as Folk, for example. In canon (if I recall correctly; it's been a while since I've rewatched he series) Brian bottomed to Justin (who are a canon couple) a grand total of one time, that we know of, and outright refused to let it happen any other time. So theoretically, a writer who writes Brian as the bottom the majority of the time is not exactly writing him IC. Does that mean it's disrespectful to write a fic where they decide to change their dynamic and let Justin become the dominant half of their relationship? It's far-fetched, certainly, but is the writer wrong for wanting to explore it?

Is it disrespectful to take a character who has stated his or her heterosexuality in canon, and put them in a slash pairing? That's certainly not in character, by your definition.

Fictional characters are not sacred entities. They were created and shared for entertainment. If you condone one kind of fanwork, you can't dismiss another by calling it disrespectful. Using a fictional character for your own masturbation fodder? How is that different than reading or writing a steampunk AU of a modern medical drama? That's for your own personal, selfish enjoyment, and deviates significantly from canon. Why is it suddenly different when the enjoyment involves sexual gratification?

And my point was that from the purely statistical point of view it's much more likely that our character does not (or would not) have whatever bizarre kink we want them to have, simply because the statistical percentage is against it. Kinks aren't called kinks because they are widely popular.

Well, topping and bottoming, unless we are talking hard BDSM, is not a 'kink', it's just a position. Same goes for sexual orientation. But if you take a character who openly stated they are not in any way gay or bi or straight, or a character who did say they'd never ever top or bottom - yes, it's disrespectful, because it means you don't care for the character in any way, they are nothing but your personal sex toy.

There is a character in one of my fandoms, for example, who sold his body. Once. To another man. He did it for the sake of saving lives, more than one life actually. It is explicitly shown that he hated every moment of it, he forced himself to endure it, it wounded his pride, he was so disgusted he ended up killing the man he slept with (later).
It is in no way in-character or acceptable or respectable to write porny fics about him whoring himself out cheerfully in deeply fetishized ways.

It is different because it is pure objectification. There is no art in it.

it means you don't care for the character in any way

In ANY WAY? Jesus Christ, you sound like a fucking bitch.

I'm actually too angry to properly reply to any of this. Your snotty superiority is showing through more and more with every reply. You have fun coming up with another haughty reply and basking in your knowledge that you are the one true fan. I'm done.

I don't sound like a bitch, I am a bitch. Not sounding like one would be out of character. XD

why are you even reading these things if you feel so strongly about it?

You don't have to read them, just watch the descriptions of the fics popping up in the community.

I'm starting to wonder if the whole real/fictional barrier is a little wobbly for you.

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