case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-01-05 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #1464 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1464 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12. [repeat]


__________________________________________________



13.


__________________________________________________



14.


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16.


__________________________________________________



17.


__________________________________________________



18.


__________________________________________________



19.


__________________________________________________



20.


__________________________________________________



21.


__________________________________________________



22.


__________________________________________________



23.


__________________________________________________



24.


__________________________________________________



25.


__________________________________________________



26.


__________________________________________________



27.


__________________________________________________



28.


__________________________________________________



29.


__________________________________________________



30.


__________________________________________________



31.


__________________________________________________



32.


__________________________________________________



33.


__________________________________________________



34.


__________________________________________________



35.


__________________________________________________



36.


__________________________________________________



37.


__________________________________________________



38.


__________________________________________________



39.


__________________________________________________



40.


__________________________________________________



41.


__________________________________________________



42.


__________________________________________________



43.


__________________________________________________



44.


__________________________________________________



45.


__________________________________________________



46.


__________________________________________________



47.



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 108 secrets from Secret Submission Post #209.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
14. http://i54.tinypic.com/2wece4h.jpg

[identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he sucks at being a friend.
ext_1338385: (Default)

[identity profile] notoriousreign.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Icon loooove. <3

[identity profile] resounding-echo.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm inclined just to attack the writers. The attempts at Mercedes's characterization are so failtastic and embarrassing that I'd rather they left her alone, particularly in this season.

And sure he's been a huge asshole to her this season, but it just seems so OOC that I barely attribute it to Kurt himself.

I'm only a casual watcher, but weren't they like actual friends in the first season? Every time we see them together, it's never friendly so why bother at this faux friendship at all? Perhaps, sadly, they just don't know what to do with Mercedes.

[identity profile] hello-ilu.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only watched the first season, and I still kinda went "yeahhhh :(" when I saw this secret, so?

that said, they were better at the beginning of the first season than at the end, even, at least imo. the "call me before you dress yourself" & "you look like a technicolor zebra" type things were kind of bitchy from the outside but nothing I wouldn't say to my closest friends? so idekkkkk. *chinhands* IT WAS GOING SO WELL.

What I've heard about this season sucks, though. :(
Edited 2011-01-05 22:31 (UTC)

[identity profile] lovedforaday.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I get the sense the writers aren't just that interested in her. And since, it seems, a good portion of fandom isn't interested in her (or plain dislikes her), the writers don't try.

(no subject)

[identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 02:29 (UTC) - Expand

[identity profile] vivalana.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This. It would be different if the show acknowledged it, because hey flawed people, but Glee seems to endorse his views 100%.

At least Glee's consistent in its bullshit?

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
While I do like Kurt's character a lot, I do rather agree with this. Mercedes has been a good friend and he does drop her like a brick.

Yes, i get all the first love, yadda yadda, becoming blind to anything but the object of affection, yadda yadda.

But you'd say he would show some ppreciation for those who stuck with him.

People like that irk me in r/l, too.



[identity profile] leafish.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
omg I agree with this so hard

They were my FAVOURITE in season 1. I loved their little moments of mutual eye-rolling and walking around arm-in-arm and hnghgngh CUTESICLES
but of course girls only want to hang out with guys to fuck them! He's just her surrogate boyfriend, because, y'know, girls don't ever have male friends who are just friends

I'm so bitter about this season of Glee

[identity profile] bloodrivendream.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

They were great in the first season.
This season, not so much. Especially that one episode OP is referring to.

[identity profile] ree-vsq.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I really dislike the way they're handling their friendship this season... but the way Mercedes didn't really object to what Kurt said (the substituting for a boyfriend thing) made me think he may have been kinda... right about it? I mean, Mercedes fell for Kurt at the beginning of S1. Sure, she now knows that Kurt is gay, but the feelings may still be there. I mean, I really don't like the implications of that, that girls can't be just friends with guys (without any attraction/romantic feelings involved), but this stuff does happen in real life in friendships between hetero women and gay men. I hated the way that confrontation was handled though, Kurt's "I'm not breaking it off with Blaine" seemed to come out of nowhere and it felt like we missed some scenes before it. And he was really insensitive about the whole thing.
I also didn't like how he tried to hook her up with that guy and kept breaking up their plans because of Blaine. I guess it's yet another example of Kurt showing us that love makes you stupid. I can kinda understand him though, he's waited his whole life to meet someone like Blaine. Still, he should have remembered who his best friend is.

[identity profile] squeedunk.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this anon. The way the show treats it, Kurt was right in what he said about Mercedes.

I just wish that weren't the case.

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
True, they aren't perfect friends to each other. Keep in mind, Mercedes isn't always the amazing caring friend either. Her trying to force Kurt into accepting some type of religion when it was quite clear he was not interested comes to mind.

[identity profile] shinyhappypanic.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
hm, I feel like she wasn't trying to force him into religion, but praying for him and bringing him to church was the only way she could think of to show she truly cared.

but maybe I'm remembering it wrong; I only watched that episode once

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 03:38 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 04:52 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:05 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:14 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:48 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:59 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:14 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:25 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:35 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:04 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:21 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:35 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:45 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:53 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:56 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:12 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] thekeres.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:25 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:34 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 06:25 (UTC) - Expand

[identity profile] cigarettelover.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He sucks as a friend from time to time, but Mercedes isn't faultless either. Had a best friend given me grief for being an atheist, held vigil and prayed over my comatose father when I expressly asked her not to and then, when I finally agreed to go to church with her, outed me as an atheist in front of a crowd of god-loving people about to sing for Jesus, I would have been pissed as hell.

[identity profile] lumati.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who's not-Christian that actually hit pretty close to home for me. So I've honestly had a hard time cutting Mercedes any slack ever since then.

In that way, Kurt's probably a nicer person than I am since I would have dropped her like she was last week's moldy tater tots.

Respect me, respect my religious choices and all that. Try to keep "showing me the light"? Well, they know where the door is or if they don't they'll be finding it soon enough. That's not what friendship is supposed to be about.

(no subject)

[identity profile] cykstar.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 05:07 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] lumati.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 08:57 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] cykstar.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 09:36 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[identity profile] lumati.livejournal.com - 2011-01-06 11:04 (UTC) - Expand

[identity profile] lovedforaday.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
But but she was insensitive towards him during Grilled Cheesus, she deserves all the shit he gives her.

Yeah, I think he's not a very good friend either. I wish, as much as Glee could, they would develop their relationship more rather than throw out Kurt-Rachel friendship fanservice.

(Anonymous) 2011-01-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really. They're both pretty shit friends, if you're going into that bit. But it's getting over that part that makes best friends just that. If I held everything my best friend has ever done to me against them, we'd be here a while. The only point on this list of his faults that I could even buy as wankerish is possibly the boyfriend set-up one, and even then I think that was an honest mistake. (Likewise, Mercedes' biggest fuck up was the entire Grilled Cheesus circus. But the less said about that, the better.)

I think they're being perfectly IC in every part they've done (including Mercedes' Cheerioes/weight thing. As someone in a similar position to Mercedes, I can believe that storyline verrrry well). And they work as realistic best friends, at least to me. They're just divas, attention seeking (for relatively good reasons on both parts) and insecure to go with it, just like a lot of teenagers...

[identity profile] countess-k.livejournal.com 2011-01-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, Kurt's a layered character. I think I like him even more with these flaws.

(Anonymous) 2011-01-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a Kurt fan, but I agree. I wasn't happy with Mercedes' actions in Grilled Cheesus, but when I think about how sad and weak their friendship has been this season, most of it really is at Kurt's feet (he was especially wretched in the Substitute). But his writing this year is kind of questionable in general, and it's pretty much always terrible for Mercedes, so I don't see it improving much, sadly.

[identity profile] putana.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Or food. My god, the writers have really let Mercedes down this season.

[identity profile] hermione-vader.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
WORD. I would love it if Mercedes got her own separate storyline, but I think the writers are too dense and chauvinistic to ever try that.

[identity profile] la-petite-singe.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
See, but he's only a jerk when it's convenient for the storyline that week. :P The entire tots thing made me rage (except for Chris' awesome reaction shot when that girl screamed "TOTS!!!" in the cafeteria), but we've seen him be a great friend to her other times & I'm sure we will again. I can't love anyone too much or write anyone off entirely on this show because the writing's so inconsistent. Sigh.

[identity profile] dynus.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. All of it.

It's done rarely enough that I mostly write it off as "teenagers being teenagers"

[identity profile] dreamsofspike.livejournal.com 2011-01-06 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree on one count only -- the situation with Blaine, and the way he basically ditched her when he found a new, gay friend he could relate to on a different level (and whose bones he wants to jump :P lol). I felt like the way the writers tried to turn that around to make it *Mercedes* who had the issue was really messed up, though I attribute that more to poor writing than anything else.

The episode that dealt with her weight? I found a little more excusable. It was about issues with body image *in general*, and Kurt obviously was having some issues with *his own* body (thanks to Sue's insulting comments toward *both* of them). It came across as harsh, but he wasn't saying "*you* need to change" he was saying "we *both* need to change" basically, so like... I didn't see it as intentionally hurtful... and then in the end he came around and gave her a real, genuine apology -- which I think is more realistic than having them both be perfect, flawless friends at all times.